Vuelta 2024 discussion

[tobydawq]

while there is no animosity between Rog and Visma from this video there is no real warmth in that exchange....Its like they barely know him and yet rode for him for years

I'm speculating that maybe Rog is a very closed book..keeps walking while Kuss begins talking to him

I got the same vibe.

 

[ice&fire]

Good to know, although we're in Portugal so that's CET -1 hour.

Local time for Lisboa and Barcelona is in both cases 2h ahead of the solar time for the reference meridian of their respective time zones.
Barcelona and Lisboa are almost 12º apart in longitude. Lisboa solar time at 19:30 BST is about the same as Barcelona's at 19:45 CEST.
Weather forecast for Lisboa today has clear skies.

 

[noob]

while there is no animosity between Rog and Visma from this video there is no real warmth in that exchange....Its like they barely know him and yet rode for him for years

I'm speculating that maybe Rog is a very closed book

Yes! To others Rogla is such a strong fun character, but comedians are generally also the most tragic.

 

[Netserk]

Giro has the potential to be great depending on what legendary passes they use and how they use it (clearly the best geography of the 3 IMO) and a very average field as of late with lots of weather related problems which put a damper on things, Tour is the Tour and has recently been the best GT as well with great battles and pretty good routes (especially 2022 stands out as the best route, maybe ever, in the race), while the Vuelta has the uncertainty, a great field on average and a route which differentiates a lot to the two more tradtional GTs with with lots of MTFs spreadout through the race and close to nothing for the sprinters. On average that makes for a better race.

In terms of watchability, its quite clear. Tour is on top, but the Vuelta is not that far of while the Giro is slumping massively.
1. Tour de France
2. Vuelta a Espana

3. Giro d' Italia

In terms of prestige, right now, I think the Vuelta is making a bid to become number 2 as well. I already consider it the second most prestigious GT due to the field which mostly comes down to the calender since there's almost nothing left for stage racers after Tour de France, but I realize that most people are probably still stuck in their ways. For me its quite obvious though that in terms of prestige and how hard it is to win, the Vuelta is 2nd.

Prestige:
1. Tour de France

2. Vuelta
3. Giro d' Italia

Do you also think the Tour-Vuelta double is more prestigious than the Giro-Tour double?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Last one, I promise: 4 hours left for entries to the Vuelta CQ Game. The spreadsheet here should make it quick and easy to get your 8 riders in the 3500 budget, then PM it to me before Luis Mate gets things started.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Do you also think the Tour-Vuelta double is more prestigious than the Giro-Tour double?

No, I still think the Giro-Tour double is harder and more prestigious, but as a standalone event, the Vuelta tops the Giro for me right now.