Vuelta a España Vuelta 2025 route rumors

[Devil's Elbow]

The end of the second week will be in Asturias with two lazy candidate MTFs:

El Angliru y La Farrapona, cerca de repetir en la Vuelta España 2025

La ronda española, que comenzará el próximo agosto en Italia, podría tener dos finales de montaña en el Principado

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Pog on the way to smash Heras' record once and forever.

Odds of Unipublic putting Angliru and Farrapona in the right order for once ≈ odds of Chris Froome winning on either MTF.

 

[Red Rick]

Odds of Unipublic putting Angliru and Farrapona in the right order for once ≈ odds of Chris Froome winning on either MTF.

Both are just about the MTF anyway

 

[JReed27]

How about Trobaniello then Farrapona from the east

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Both are just about the MTF anyway

Farrapona depends on the field. If Pogacar and Vingegaard are battling it out, you can (especially if it comes the day after rather than before Angliru) bet your left kidney on the race having exploded by the summit of San Lorenzo. If Roglic and Mas are 'battling' it out, you can bet your left kidney on the opposite.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

How about Trobaniello then Farrapona from the east

The east side of Farrapona isn't in Asturias and therefore almost certainly a non-starter for an Asturian stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Farrapona depends on the field. If Pogacar and Vingegaard are battling it out, you can (especially if it comes the day after rather than before Angliru) bet your left kidney on the race having exploded by the summit of San Lorenzo. If Roglic and Mas are 'battling' it out, you can bet your left kidney on the opposite.

Pogacar and Vingegaard who attacked the penultimate climb a full 0 times on the main mountain stages this year?

Besides they only do it if they think its already wrapped up

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Pogacar and Vingegaard who attacked the penultimate climb a full 0 times on the main mountain stages this year?

Besides they only do it if they think its already wrapped up

These two statements directly contradict each other, given that Pogacar had the Tour wrapped up after the first main mountain stage this year. The latter is also directly contradicted by what happened on Galibier in 2022.

Also, the opportunities to attack on the penultimate climb in this year's Alpine and Pyrenean mountain stages were (with the exception of Bonette) about ten times worse than San Lorenzo before Farrapona would be.

 

[Red Rick]

Galibier 2022 was a tactical necessity in the perspective of the team then.

Also, if the gap is a minute, Angliru you are not getting that on Angliru

 

[ice&fire]

The east side of Farrapona isn't in Asturias and therefore almost certainly a non-starter for an Asturian stage.

The east side of Farrapona has been paved and opened this week!

After the Picon Blanco stage this year, I can see Unipublic doing the loop Farrapona, Ventana, San Lorenzo, Farrapona.

Asturias y León ya tienen una nueva conexión por carretera: «Era una demanda histórica»

La Junta de Castilla y León asegura que los trabajos «facilitarán el desarrollo social y económico de esta zona leonesa que atesora un gran valor paisajístico»

www.lavozdeasturias.es

 

[YavorD]

Vuelta will reveal the route on 19th of December.
The question is, will we have a Giro route revealed before that or no?

 

[houtdffan]

does Unipublic even exist any more?

This is an ASO race and has been for more than a decade

 

[Rockestar_33]

Vuelta will reveal the route on 19th of December.
The question is, will we have a Giro route revealed before that or no?

Not a chance

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Well, the most random foreign GT start ever is official. It does still feel like they drew a random region out of a hat and then did the same for the stage hosts.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863571082789130712

The MTF is the profile below until Panice Soprana (so minus the final 7 kilometres), same finish as in the 2002 Giro but without the steep Colletto del Moro backing directly into it. That stage had the first 29 riders within a minute of each other, so that tells you all about how much to expect of this easier version.

Stage 3 ends with roughly a kilometre at 5% (depending on where exactly in Ceres they finish, but it's a small town) after a lengthy false flat, it's the first ~10k of the profile below. The final kilometres were already used in the 2023 Giro Donne but that stage had 2600 metres of climbing packed into just over 100 kilometres, so not really comparable.

 

[Samamba]

Wth is this

 

[YavorD]

First 3 stages are horrible.
What can they possibly do in stage 4, suspected Susa-Grenoble?

 

[JReed27]

What can they possibly do in stage 4, suspected Susa-Grenoble?

I'd expect Montgenevre - Lautaret with a few hills south of grenoble before the finish (best option would be to go via the Col Du Luitel or Chamrousse)

The other option would be Mont Cenis - Grand Cucheron which could be followed with a flat run to grenoble or use the same hills as the Dauphine 2023 although that would lead to a stage that is probably too hard for a modern GT.

They could be crazy and add either the galibier or croix de fer but i doubt it.

They will probably finish on La Bastille because Vuelta

 

[ashhutch1997]

Given the possibilities of the region, this is pretty tragic

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Given the possibilities of the region, this is pretty tragic

...or even the possibilities of finishing in Limone Piemonte and Ceres. The former could have done with the aforementioned Moro or even continued all the way up to Colle di Tenda like in the 2005 Giro, the latter could have been a mid-mountain stage with the same final climb as the Giro Donne stage I referred to. I would have understood if that was an either/or situation, but to go for the single softest option for both stages is, to put it diplomatically, typical of Unipublic's usage of non-Pyrenean stages abroad.