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Vuelta Production Values

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I was really looking forward to watching the Vuelta on Universal Sports, specially after the HD splendor of the Tour. Now I am really disappointed

The image quality is below that of basic broadcast TV. Nowhere nead standard def Tour or Giro,
Picture breakup even out in the open with clear blue skies.
Crackeling sound noises.
During commentary you can hear road noise at the same time as background noise outside the commentary booth during commentary.
The camera work, both from the air and ground is bleh.
Don't get me started on "GoGo and what's his name's blathering in the booth.

Add the scorched dry enviroment and the endless matching concrete high rise buildings everywhere and the result, for me, is not much fun. Been doing lots of FF with the remote.

Is it just me?
 
rickshaw said:
I was really looking forward to watching the Vuelta on Universal Sports, specially after the HD splendor of the Tour. Now I am really disappointed

The image quality is below that of basic broadcast TV. Nowhere nead standard def Tour or Giro,
Picture breakup even out in the open with clear blue skies.
Crackeling sound noises.
During commentary you can hear road noise at the same time as background noise outside the commentary booth during commentary.
The camera work, both from the air and ground is bleh.
Don't get me started on "GoGo and what's his name's blathering in the booth.

Add the scorched dry enviroment and the endless matching concrete high rise buildings everywhere and the result, for me, is not much fun. Been doing lots of FF with the remote.

Is it just me?

You should be carefull FF-ing with our without the remote. No matter how bored you get during the transmission. :p
 
Jul 14, 2009
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Funny thing is that Versus is showing the Colorado race at the same times that Universal Sports is airing the Vuelta. Both are part of NBC Sports. Do they talk to each other there?
 
May 14, 2010
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hfer07 said:
I'm disappointed too-I've got the season package & looks like the problems is on Universal's end-check out the quality from RTVE:

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/...-4-etapa-baza-sierra-nevada-23-08-11/1180691/

Video quality looks clear but colors are still whack. NBC and everyone else are just broadcasting the feed given to them by the race, and in this case I think the feed is coming from Spanish state television. In any case, the broadcaster is paying for the feed and can't control its quality. I agree it leaves something to be desired, but I'm OK with it as long as I can see (actually see) the race.
 
Maxiton said:
Video quality looks clear but colors are still whack. NBC and everyone else are just broadcasting the feed given to them by the race, and in this case I think the feed is coming from Spanish state television. In any case, the broadcaster is paying for the feed and can't control its quality. I agree it leaves something to be desired, but I'm OK with it as long as I can see (actually see) the race.
are you kidding me?-RTVE broadcasting is really good compared to that VHS tape-like quality from Universal-I don't really know WTF is wrong with NBC, but everybody is getting the right quality(Eurosport) except them-there is no excuse at all -especially when is a pay-per-view deal!!
 
Aug 16, 2009
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Is the Vuelta trasmited in HD somewhere? I had the Tour in HD on ESPN but the Vuelta is SD and the quality is bad.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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The Vuelta and Giro have always done an average job with their tv production and in general their advertising to the rest of the world as a great race. Seems to be some very poor crowds in Spain. Not many on route but that is more to do with time of year and the economy in Spain although their seems to be much less spectators than other years.
 
Aug 1, 2009
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auscyclefan94 said:
The Vuelta and Giro have always done an average job with their tv production and in general their advertising to the rest of the world as a great race. Seems to be some very poor crowds in Spain. Not many on route but that is more to do with time of year and the economy in Spain although their seems to be much less spectators than other years.

I don't see how the economy can affect to the crowds in the road, if there is a stage in your city that's free ¡ ;) , now seriously, the timing is the main problem here, mostly in the South of Spain , it's just too hot to be out there, anyway cycling is more popular in the north of spain so I expect more people in the coming stages.
 
Sep 7, 2010
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Nielsa said:
I'm getting good standard def images on Eurosport for this race.

Really?.. I'm watching it on Eursport HD and it's horrible. Not only the colors but the picture as a whole. Looks like they are covering a race from Africa or so..

You can't hear the 'natural sounds' from the spectators, wheels, riders etc. either - only the commentators. (that might be Eurosport's fault though).
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Spaniard said:
I don't see how the economy can affect to the crowds in the road, if there is a stage in your city that's free ¡ ;) , now seriously, the timing is the main problem here, mostly in the South of Spain , it's just too hot to be out there, anyway cycling is more popular in the north of spain so I expect more people in the coming stages.
With a bad economy, many of the people who would be watching would be either working much longer and/or holidaying around Spain watching the race.
 
Jul 16, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
With a bad economy, many of the people who would be watching would be either working much longer and/or holidaying around Spain watching the race.

Haha, Spaniards working?

If the economy is bad you're working even less as a lot of people won't even have a job. And with Spaniards... Let's just say they're not the greatest workers out there.
 
El Pistolero said:
Haha, Spaniards working?

If the economy is bad you're working even less as a lot of people won't even have a job. And with Spaniards... Let's just say they're not the greatest workers out there.

You are becoming more ignorant with every new post.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Duartista said:
Some top-notch sociological analysis on this thread :rolleyes:

If I am completely off the mark please come out and say it and explain to me why the spectator numbers are so poor in a cycling country being Spain?
 
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If I am completely off the mark please come out and say it and explain to me why the spectator numbers are so poor in a cycling country being Spain?
Spain isn't really a cycling country. There are regions where it is very popular, mainly in the north as has been said. The reason they started earlier this year was to take advantage of the last week of the summer holidays. I don't know where the idea that crowd numbers are worse has come from, actually.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Thomsena said:
Begging?... It's Spain..
Are you being sracastic as the people who I know who have been to Spain have seen beggers everywhere.
Duartista said:
Spain isn't really a cycling country. There are regions where it is very popular, mainly in the north as has been said. The reason they started earlier this year was to take advantage of the last week of the summer holidays. I don't know where the idea that crowd numbers are worse has come from, actually.

It would be one of their main sports surely? The amount of riders and races and crowd numbers at many of their races proves that though in saying that there looks to be a lot less people on the rodas watching in comparison to other years.
 
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Arnout said:
You are becoming more ignorant with every new post.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news...But-Remains-an-Economic-Engine-121273179.html

With an unemployment rate of 22%, no more needs to be said.

The majority of the population could easily watch the Vuelta on TV if they wanted to, at least in the first week when the kids still have vacation. Now going outside to watch the race live is a different story. In scourging heat like in Southern Spain, I wouldn't go outside during those hours either. Which is the biggest reason for the "crappy" crowds so far. Just wait till they reach the Basque Country.

Plus I haven't heard good things about the productivity of Spanish people at work. But that can again be related to the heat there. It slows things down.