Was Andy Schleck clean? His reaction to Contador's positive will be very revealing!

[ricara]

When Floyd tested positive after the TdF, Pereiro didn't say "I'm glad they caught him. When they catch the dopers it give clean riders like myself a fair chance."

Instead he said something like, "I don't want to take the yellow jersey like this. They have treated Floyd fairly, blah, blah, blah" instantly revealing Pereiro as a doper.

Let's see what Andy Schleck has to say about AC's problems. I think we can learn a lot (although I think we already suspect both AS and AC of doing a lot more than what they popped Alberto for).

 

[Ferminal]

He will proably just rub Uncle Barney's face in it.

 

[EmpressJo]

Instead he said something like, "I don't want to take the yellow jersey like this. They have treated Floyd fairly, blah, blah, blah" instantly revealing Pereiro as a doper.

Let's see what Andy Schleck has to say about AC's problems.

Nothing from Baby Schleck on Twitter - yet. Actually, he hasn't been on Twitter for a couple of weeks.

At any rate, I imagine he also wouldn't want to 'win' the yellow like this either. Who would?

 

[Oldman]

It's possible he knew before us. Why do you think he was celebrating at the Vuelta with Stuey? "Drink up dudes, I won the lottery!"

 

[D-Queued]

Nothing from Baby Schleck on Twitter - yet. Actually, he hasn't been on Twitter for a couple of weeks.

At any rate, I imagine he also wouldn't want to 'win' the yellow like this either. Who would?

If the choice is win it like this, or lose it like that, don't you think he would opt for the win?

Dave.

 

[Oldman]

If the choice is win it like this, or lose it like that, don't you think he would opt for the win?

Dave.

If you're a pro a win is a win. Posing as an underserving victor is weak unless it is true.

 

[EmpressJo]

If you're a pro a win is a win. .

Wow. Now that is sad. Seriously, in 50 years' time who would you remember as winning the TDF? The doped guy that won it at the time or the guy that 'won' it by it being handed to him?

 

[SC1990]

When Floyd tested positive after the TdF, Pereiro didn't say "I'm glad they caught him. When they catch the dopers it give clean riders like myself a fair chance."

Instead he said something like, "I don't want to take the yellow jersey like this. They have treated Floyd fairly, blah, blah, blah" instantly revealing Pereiro as a doper.

Let's see what Andy Schleck has to say about AC's problems. I think we can learn a lot (although I think we already suspect both AS and AC of doing a lot more than what they popped Alberto for).

Woah, woah, if you're going to decide that saying you don't want to win by default is apparently stone cold evidence that you were doped to the eyeballs, at least find the appropriate quote instead of 'something like', and anyway, what a load of nonsense! Since when where people 'instantly revealed as a doper' for not saying they are clean through some ****ty PR statement? It's that kind of completely nonsensical and speculation-treated-as-fact attitude that makes cycling such an easy target for anti-drug people anyway, the last thing we need is fans deciding people are dopers based on a sentence they can't even properly recall and then stating it as a fact.

 

[alpine_chav]

Wow. Now that is sad. Seriously, in 50 years' time who would you remember as winning the TDF? The doped guy that won it at the time or the guy that 'won' it by it being handed to him?

Contador all the way... unless Schlek now wins 3 or more TdF and then people will say Schlek won so many TdF and forget that the first was won through the back door. I should add that the likelihood of that happening is slim because Andy is the biggest doper of them all and will also get caught eventually.

 

[alpine_chav]

When Floyd tested positive after the TdF, Pereiro didn't say "I'm glad they caught him. When they catch the dopers it give clean riders like myself a fair chance."

Instead he said something like, "I don't want to take the yellow jersey like this. They have treated Floyd fairly, blah, blah, blah" instantly revealing Pereiro as a doper.

Let's see what Andy Schleck has to say about AC's problems. I think we can learn a lot (although I think we already suspect both AS and AC of doing a lot more than what they popped Alberto for).

There is only one way to win a bike race and that is on the road. I remember taking a national underage title back in the day but it was an empty victory because my main rival had had his bike stolen and couldn't race. Though I have the trophy it means very little to me because I know that I wasn't competing with the best rider for the title. I can imagine winning by default feels like this but even more so.

 

[Adamastor]

There is only one way to win a bike race and that is on the road. I remember taking a national underage title back in the day but it was an empty victory because my main rival had had his bike stolen and couldn't race. Though I have the trophy it means very little to me because I know that I wasn't competing with the best rider for the title. I can imagine winning by default feels like this but even more so.

how many millions did you earn with your win? just curious...

 

[Spare Tyre]

Well Andy Schleck has tweeted in the past few minutes:

What a crazy day in cycling with the news about Contador I only heard about it in the press I hope he is innocent

and

and i think he deserves the right to defend himself mow

 

[BroDeal]

Millar has once again shown his true colors:

Millar said that it would have been better if this was fully investigated before being made public. "It's a shame that it's been released when it hasn't been resolved. I think it's something that should be resolved behind closed doors and done the way it should be done properly."

“There are strict rules and I think unfortunately in cycling for the right reasons we always jump to the worst-case scenario…because of the history we have in the sport unfortunately maybe Alberto's just maybe been kind of thrown to the sharks.”

“I think it will get resolved…I hope so, for Alberto's benefit and I hope so for the sport's benefit.”


http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5...Contadors-Clenbuterol-news-came-too-soon.aspx

 

[roundabout]

What the heck is Millar talking about, the UCI kindly gave Contador a month to prepare his steak defense.

 

[Roland Rat]

Schleck was as doped, if not moreso than Contador. At least Contador showed a loss of form compared to previous years suggesting a reduced programme.

 

[craig1985]

It's possible he knew before us. Why do you think he was celebrating at the Vuelta with Stuey? "Drink up dudes, I won the lottery!"

Haha.

/ thread.

 

[Boeing]

When Floyd tested positive after the TdF, Pereiro didn't say "I'm glad they caught him. When they catch the dopers it give clean riders like myself a fair chance."

Instead he said something like, "I don't want to take the yellow jersey like this. They have treated Floyd fairly, blah, blah, blah" instantly revealing Pereiro as a doper.

Let's see what Andy Schleck has to say about AC's problems. I think we can learn a lot (although I think we already suspect both AS and AC of doing a lot more than what they popped Alberto for).

in other words; let's all speculate on the speculation

 

[Wallace]

Man, some of you people really live in a comic book world. Do you really think everything is good vs. evil, and that the bad guys have facial scars and are really, really ugly?

Contador is a friend of Schleck's. He tested positive for a very small amount, the case is still on-going, if he is positive ultimately, then it's another huge stain on the sport--and you think Andy not standing up yelling "I'm clean and the Tour is mine, all mine!" is automatic proof of his guilt?

Grow up.

Not--by the way--that I am in anyway saying Andy is clean. Just that life can be, you know, complicated?

 

[SC1990]

Man, some of you people really live in a comic book world. Do you really think everything is good vs. evil, and that the bad guys have facial scars and are really, really ugly?

Contador is a friend of Schleck's. He tested positive for a very small amount, the case is still on-going, if he is positive ultimately, then it's another huge stain on the sport--and you think Andy not standing up yelling "I'm clean and the Tour is mine, all mine!" is automatic proof of his guilt?

Grow up.

Not--by the way--that I am in anyway saying Andy is clean. Just that life can be, you know, complicated?

Oh good, someone with some sense. Geez, I only really started looking at these forums today, and you really begin to lose faith in humanity. The number of people up themselves by presenting bull**** as fact, usually derived just from pure speculation, is remarkable.

And as for the Lance 'haters and lovers'...really, what's the point? They've both got to a point where all they can do is say 'our circumstancial speculative evidence is better then your circumstancial speculative evidence' then impose grand conspiracy theories as if it somehow shows they're morally and logically superior to others. It's a cycling forum. Not a gossip magazine. Geez.

 

[Benotti69]

Oh good, someone with some sense. Geez, I only really started looking at these forums today, and you really begin to lose faith in humanity. The number of people up themselves by presenting bull**** as fact, usually derived just from pure speculation, is remarkable.

And as for the Lance 'haters and lovers'...really, what's the point? They've both got to a point where all they can do is say 'our circumstancial speculative evidence is better then your circumstancial speculative evidence' then impose grand conspiracy theories as if it somehow shows they're morally and logically superior to others. It's a cycling forum. Not a gossip magazine. Geez.

LA's circumstantial evidence????you wanna read some more threads. he tested positive and cheated, bribed his way out sanctions. UCI still has not produced proof that the LA's payment was not a bribe for a positive epo test in TdSuisse. Circumstantial give us a break!

 

[gearmasher]

Man, some of you people really live in a comic book world. Do you really think everything is good vs. evil, and that the bad guys have facial scars and are really, really ugly?

Contador is a friend of Schleck's. He tested positive for a very small amount, the case is still on-going, if he is positive ultimately, then it's another huge stain on the sport--and you think Andy not standing up yelling "I'm clean and the Tour is mine, all mine!" is automatic proof of his guilt?

Grow up.

Not--by the way--that I am in anyway saying Andy is clean. Just that life can be, you know, complicated?

I don't agree. If it was me, knowing I'm 100% clean, the first thing I would state would be that if he turns out guilty, he needs to be punished and I will gladly take the title which rightfully should be mine. This champion on the road stuff is ridiculous. The ends justifies the means, no matter what? Just win baby?

 

[Ruxen1989]

Andy Schleck to danish Tv2:
"I don't want to win the tour with these circumstances. I lost the tour on the roads and will allways be number two."

Source: http://sporten.tv2.dk/cykling/article.php/id-33938587:andy-vil-ikke-overtage-toursejr.html

I totally get him. Imagine if you as a cyclist have been dreaming about going to the Paris in the yellow jersey and how it would feel to stand on the top podium, winning your first tour. Instead you get a message weeks later: oooh by the way you won your first tour. I would be deflated! Maybe it counts on paper but it's the memory that lasts.

 

[gearmasher]

Andy Schleck to danish Tv2:
"I don't want to win the tour with these circumstances. I lost the tour on the roads and will allways be number two."

Source: http://sporten.tv2.dk/cykling/article.php/id-33938587:andy-vil-ikke-overtage-toursejr.html

I totally get him. Imagine if you as a cyclist have been dreaming about going to the Paris in the yellow jersey and how it would feel to stand on the top podium, winning your first tour. Instead you get a message weeks later: oooh by the way you won your first tour. I would be deflated! Maybe it counts on paper but it's the memory that lasts.

I'd feel great. Losing to a cheater isn't really losing. His comments make it abundantly clear that he is dirty too. From your perspective, why drug test at all?

 

[Intelligent Being]

Andy Schleck is a doper. He went from dropping practically everyone in the Tour to being groupetto fodder in the Vuelta on every hill.

 

[Ruxen1989]

I'd feel great. Losing to a cheater isn't really losing. His comments make it abundantly clear that he is dirty too. From your perspective, why drug test at all?

NO, that is not what I'm saying!
I just said that if my dream from I was 14 years old (see his blog) came true I wouldn't like to get a note a month after the party is over. Losing to a cheater isn't really losing: I totaly agree on that. But I think Andy is losing his dream from his childhood to come true here. Second time to win is special but it will never be the first.

Di Luca was tested positive short after Andy had taken second after him in the Giro 2007. I think Andy was clean here, 21 years old and no expectations at all. Why should he be doped?
Rebellin was suspended for CERA use in 2008 yesterday and Andy came in second after him in Fleche W. 2009 and now this? It must be pretty anoying.