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What Happens Next?

Sep 8, 2010
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If things continue to shake out today as they certainly look like they will, most especially the Hincapie confession, where will the fallout end?

By that I mean was there political pressure causing U.S. Attorney Andre Birotte Jr. to drop the USPS fraud case? It looks like this case should have gone to trial. And what about Trek, where do they fit in this whole sordid mess? It looks clear that they protected and supported LA to the point of wiping Lemond cycles from the marketplace.

Maybe there will be a slew of civil suits to follow.
 
May 26, 2010
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I want to hear more about Hincapie and his alleged anti doping since 1996, same for Mick Barry.

What happens next? After all the holding heads in hands, then shaking heads, tsk tsking and feigned shock horror, nothing.

Wait for the silence on twitter from the omerta.

Pinotti and 1 or 2 others will tweet something positive. The rest nada, niente, nowt, zilch.....and so it goes on.

Will McQuaid even step down from embarrassment? Nope.
 
Jun 4, 2010
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Doping Agencies

What happens next is that the rest of the world's doping agencies need to buck up and do their job as well as the USADA does
 
May 26, 2010
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GWAR79 said:
What happens next is that the rest of the world's doping agencies need to buck up and do their job as well as the USADA does

Nail on the head.

The governments in western countries need to make it a criminal offence to dope with huge fines.
 
Only firing Pat McQuaid is not enough though. I agree that this has to be done, but current structures need to be torn down. We need to make sure that things like this cannot happen any longer behind closed doors. USADA has shown that doping tests are not the only way to bust a cyclist. This is important, as tests for doping are always lagging behind doping itself.

Can we as fans pressurize our national anti doping agencies to step up and investigate the part about their country that is revealed in the USADA report, for a start? For the Netherlands, this would mean an investigation into the Rabobank story.
 
Mar 12, 2010
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One could wish for jail time for the liar.

Or at least big fines/court cases to bankrupt him.

Burn him...burn him down.
 
Mar 12, 2010
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the asian said:
Yr. Hopefully he spends some time for trafficking.

Is there also any possibility of perjury?

Wow, trafficking is Felony time...in Texas?!?! Hardcore criminals in those pens....not a place for a 200 lb cyclist...with no bike to jump on to run away!:p

I bet he wouldn't be so tough in there....he'd have to join one of the Skinhead clans just to survive.

How did it come to this? Oh, right....he lied...again and again.

The Feds ALWAYS get their man. Being under the USPS banner, he could get some REAL time.
 
Nothing will happen until the supply and administration of doping products to athletes is made a criminal offence.

There is already an argument to go for the doctors on a civil basis by strking them off on the ground that by assisting doping they are breaking their hippocratic oath to 'do no harm'. This could be addressed under both civil and criminal codes if the political will exists. Regrettably it doesn't currently as public opinion towards doping remains ambivalent. No one wants to believe their national heroes are doping.
 
Jul 6, 2012
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The cynical part of me thinks that nothing will happen. Too many big shots and too many companies with too much money are tied too closely to Armstrong to let him go down. Trek. Nike. Several politicians. Journalists. Authors. Celebrities.
 
Aug 21, 2012
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Where I come from we would call this one god almighty Sh!tstorm!.......how its going to end........who knows, fasten your seatbelts its going to be a bumpy ride......:eek:
 
Mar 12, 2009
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Cyclingnews.com headline- "Barry apologizes for doping". What I'd like to see happen next is a rider apologizing for doping BEFORE he gets caught. Mike, you're not sorry that you doped, you're sorry you got caught. Just maybe fans aren't as dumb as you seem to think they are.
Otherwise, yeah it seems like there could be a lot of civil lawsuits coming along. I want to see Scumstrong hounded and haunted to the point of insanity. For a sociopath like that I don't think it will be a long journey.
 
Jun 15, 2009
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Next up?....
In 21 days there is no TdF winner between 99 and 05. Especially i look forward the wikipedia site "Armstrongs achievements":
TdF results
99-DQ
00-DQ
01-DQ
02-DQ
03-DQ
04-DQ
05-DQ

Jau, it will be great coming days. :D:)
 
Dec 9, 2011
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Hopefully Pat is going to get himself a nice bottle of Scotch and the keys to the computer room in Aigle that he's been banned from. Get absolutely steaming and write us all another eloquent rebuttle. C'mon Pat - do it.
 
GWAR79 said:
What happens next is that the rest of the world's doping agencies need to buck up and do their job as well as the USADA does

USADA definitely did the right thing, Tygart is worthy of respect. But this never would have happened without the federal investigation. If you tally up all the costs it took to bring Armstrong down it would be unsustainable for any countries' anti doping agency. The consequences of perjury are what compelled these guys to tell the truth. If it were simply a USADA investigation I think there wouldn't be any useful testimony contributed by the riders at all, they'd lie their way through it like they have their entire careers.


If the US and other countries get the law doing investigations then there will be results, otherwise they will be similar to what USADA will go back to now: busting the occasional masters fattie along with rare pro.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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While I guess he is now at least as guilty as OJ I think there may be more to come, even if the UCI just rubber stamps it. Doesn't LA have a right of appeal to CAS?
 
Master50 said:
While I guess he is now at least as guilty as OJ I think there may be more to come, even if the UCI just rubber stamps it. Doesn't LA have a right of appeal to CAS?

LA not, he accepted his sanction, not interested to see the investigation. UCI might do so, but that would really end the validy of anyone's UCI licence. Heck, would contracted insurance companies even want to partake anymore?