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What if Pellizotti Raced the Giro?

Mar 13, 2009
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I don't know if this topic was covered in another thread, but I am curious what others think.

Does Basso still win?

In fact if Pellizotti had raced Sastre probably doesn't crash five times, Wigans doesn't the lose pink after the first day, and Evans never gets pink in the first place.

More importantly with Pellizotti racing, does the 12 minute break on stage # whatever still occur?

I say it doesn't.

Resulting in that 12 minute break was also top 10 finishes from two young guns (Porte and Kiserlovski). Lets say the break never happens: they then don't try as hard in the final week, never realize the full potential they have in a grand tour, and lose out on that mental toughness gained that makes hardened champions.

Now I'm saying either is going to be spitting out grand tour wins, however the mere fact that Pellizotti did not raced had a direct effect on the growth of two young riders. Maybe neither would have realized their full potential without this Giro.

Its a little "Run Lola Run"esque, but its crazy how Pellizotti's misfortune was the ultimate gain for Kiserlovski and Porte's.

Thoughts?
 
As your post points out, there are simply too many variables to really know. And obviously any opinion would be mere speculation.

Unless I missed something I don't see how Pelizotti riding affects the crashes. Crashes happen, people ride out of position and lose time because of crashes. That's racing.

I don't think Pelizotti racing has any impact on the 12 minutes break either. The who's job is it to chase game would have still been played between Liquigas and Astana.

Perhpas Liquigas might have felt that they had more to ride for with Pelizotti and Basso as opposed to Nibali and Basso, but IMO there isn't a huge drop. So IMO Liquigas either way has to ride strong.

The only certain result of Pelizotti racing is that Nibali doesn't win a stage or finish on the podium. ;)
 
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there is no justification that anything you propose would have changed. you are just making up your own fantasy giro!;) why do that when the real one was so terrific?
 
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spanky wanderlust said:
there is no justification that anything you propose would have changed. you are just making up your own fantasy giro!;) why do that when the real one was so terrific?

I agree the Giro was fantastic.

However what I am proposing is, Pellizotti not racing sparked the careers of two young riders, a simple twist of fate.
 
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I think it's interesting to try to figure out what the impact on this year's Giro would have been if Coppi had come back from the dead to ride it. Given that Zombies always seem to have super-human speed and strength, his climbing would have been phenomenal. But since Zombies also have poor motor skills, his descending would have been at about Basso's level, maybe even worse. Of course the strength of zombie-Coppi's team wouldn't have mattered, since he'd have just eaten them.
 
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While agree with wallace that zombie coppi would have been a sight to behold, and the others stating too many variables...don't see how pellizotti out and nibali in would change things for the young guys, beyond the too many variables thing.

More interesting for me, if Contador turned up, could he have won and gone on to win the tour.
 
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Ferminal said:
He would've broken 40'00" on the Kronplatz, been slammed as a doper, and won the overall.

But he just subs for Nibali, nothing at Liquigas really changes, only the certainty of the leadership.

i wonder if the same would be true if FP joined twisted sister ;)?........

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