Boardman used superman position; Bobridge beats his time using a standard position. Unbelievable. What's in Garmin's suitcase of courage?
JV has some more explaining to do...
JV has some more explaining to do...
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What is Jack Bobridge on?
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Fast track, warm dry and humid. Perfect conditions.
Id like to see Bobridge get that time on a wet cold afternoon in Manchester.
Id like to see Bobridge get that time on a wet cold afternoon in Manchester.
Willy_Voet said:Boardman used superman position; Bobridge beats his time using a standard position. Unbelievable. What's in Garmin's suitcase of courage?
JV has some more explaining to do...
Excuse my ignorance, but what event is this in reference to?
hrotha said:
If you want a rider with a reputation for being clean, Boardman is right up there with Bassons...
hrotha said:
Everything points to him being so, and the opinion in the peloton was that he was one of the few that was at the time.
Right, that's what I thought.
So, isn't it somewhat sinister to suggest the only way to beat a clean performance is being doped?
So, isn't it somewhat sinister to suggest the only way to beat a clean performance is being doped?
hrotha said:
Usually it would be logical, but you have to keep in mind that Rohan Dennis rode the third best time of all time the same afternoon. The leaves roughly three posibilities:
a) those two guys discovered some super-dope, or are the first pursuit riders ever to dope
b) they both got a incredible boost in performance on the same day for no apparent reason
c) the track conditions were absolutely perfect, resulting in a statistical abberation
If it was just Bobridge, you could argue that he just reached a higher level because of his age, or that he started using doping, but the addition of Dennis time makes option C by far the most likely.
No, Boardman's record was 4:11.114, Rohan Dennis' time was 4:13.400.Kennf1 said:
Jack Bobridge didn't strike me as particularly doped in Giro d'Italia this year.
Jack is on a carbon bicycle and he is also on a fast track to drill it for miles by himself to a few solo wins . The guy has incredible speed and can carry it for miles
Let's be real-Boardman's record is 15 years old.
It's not that phenomenal to break a record like that after such a long time.
In fact, I'm surprised it took so long given the advances in training and equipment.
It's not that phenomenal to break a record like that after such a long time.
In fact, I'm surprised it took so long given the advances in training and equipment.
Berzin said:
The funny thing is that for all the advances in training, both Boardman and Bobridge broke the record off the back of a tour, rather than a measured and planned training phase.
There is also an argument that Boardmans bike and position was higher tech than that available today.
maltiv said:
The doping program, and physiology to excel, for a 3-week Grand Tour is quite different than that for a 4 minute effort.*
Ask Wiggins.
*I am not accusing Bobridge of doping.
andy1234 said:
some c0ck pony starts a negative thread implying that the guy is gassed..the move of a total toilet lick. Bobridge is a great racer and has been doing a great job in every aspect of racing..Great results in every discipline he competes in. The guy is not"on" anything other than his bike. The Aussie track nationals is an awesome show of power and speed in equal measures and all the dope jumpers that want to take away a great accomplishment should jump somewhere else. The berzin thing about the record being 15 years old is absurd..what nobody had the time? The record was easy to break only everybody was too busy to break it? rubbish Bobridge and Meyer are flying and Goss is also at warp speed..the dope posters should chill
I don't think any of you have anything to worry about.
Bobridge is part of the new, clean generation.
He rides for Garmin, a well-known clean team.
English is his first language.
Bobridge is part of the new, clean generation.
He rides for Garmin, a well-known clean team.
English is his first language.
Temperature and density.
When the temperature gets as high as it probably was in that building the density of the gets less and less therefore Jack would have had less resistance. Its the same reason the track sprint riders go to high altitude tracks to try the Kilo record, the air density is much lower. The endurance type riders couldn't handle it though as the oxygen levels drop as well and while a minute is possible 4+ would kill these guys
When the temperature gets as high as it probably was in that building the density of the gets less and less therefore Jack would have had less resistance. Its the same reason the track sprint riders go to high altitude tracks to try the Kilo record, the air density is much lower. The endurance type riders couldn't handle it though as the oxygen levels drop as well and while a minute is possible 4+ would kill these guys
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