What will be the outcome of Caso Contador?

[Merckx index]

(All ban options assume time served included. Space limitations precluded saying this in the options).

While a one-year ban I think should not be possible, I have included it just to cover all bases. If the panel finds him guilty, I can imagine their wanting to lessen the shock with a shorter penalty, though how they would rationalize one year I don’t know.

I voted uncertain. Based on what I know, I think the case against him is very strong, certainly far more than a preponderance of evidence points to transfusion rather than contamination. If I were on the panel, I would vote for a two year ban.

But I’m not sure how the arbs will see it. I recall not so many years ago, when stories of blood transfusions were starting to emerge, some very knowledgeable posters at Daily Peloton scoffed at the notion that a rider would do it during a GT. They insisted the logistics were too complicated, too much risk was involved. I think the arbs may exhibit a similar mentality. It’s one thing to pop a pill or inject a couple of cc, it’s quite another to transport frozen red cells, then thaw them, reconstitute them and transfuse them. They may find this scenario far-fetched for a rider under so much media scrutiny.

I think a somewhat safer prediction here is a split decision, not a KO. Even Floyd got that.

Edit: Hmmm, right after I posted it, before anyone else had seen this post, there was not only my vote for not sure, but another vote for no ban. Who did that if no one else had seen the post? Was it God? The Spanish Prime Minister? Is this an omen?

 

[Parrulo]

while i hope that he gets cleared i am uncertain of what the decision will be and if i were forced to have a guess i would say he would be banned

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I think he will get banned.

 

[c&cfan]

Why would you hope he would be cleared? You should just hope that justice pevails and that the truth comes out which ever way it goes. Thats all i want.

Having said all that i do think he will be banned. Look at kolo toure in football, he took his wife"s water tablets coz he was worried about his own weight. It was later confirmed he tested positive for a specified substance. WADA defines a specified substance as "more susceptible to a credible, non-doping explanation". Everyone knew it was unintentional. He got banned for 6 months and the football association said he would of got banned for longer only he admitted to the offence.

With contador putting up such a stern defence and admitting to nothing i think he is in for a hefty ban.

hypocrite in all paragraphs. that's consistence.

 

[ferryman]

Nothing to see here, move on

 

[Maxiton]

I don't know what will happen and that's the option I selected. Anything could happen. I suspect he'll be banned, lose Tour 2010 results and all results for 2011, and be eligible to return toward the end of 2012. I hope he'll be cleared.

 

[moi123]

Anything other than completely cleared will make this case a total disgrace to cycling. It will go down as one of the most political and disgusting cases the sport has ever seen. It already is in a way, it took way too long, but the outcome will be decisive.

Let's hope the 'proof' and talk from Contador's camp is overwhelming/convincing enough. At the moment I'm not too positive about it, the jury('s) can decide whatever they like (or has been told to them). The outcome might already be known to them, just waiting for the perfect moment to announce it.

For me there is only one outcome, but let's see what they will make of it.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

This is the tour of 2012 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szLGtG_yQzo (don`t mind that it stands giro, it is the tour )

 

[spalco]

If he's found guilty I think it would be a travesty to let him come back in 2012 already. Part of the point of a ban is to keep an athlete from competing, if you just take away his results without ever keeping him out of competition it's not much of a punishment at all, considering he's still young enough to pad his palmares several times over.

He should lose his results and get a 2-year ban on top of it imo, meaning he can't return before the 2014 season.

 

[Caruut]

Anything other than completely cleared will make this case a total disgrace to cycling. It will go down as one of the most political and disgusting cases the sport has ever seen. It already is in a way, it took way too long, but the outcome will be decisive.

Let's hope the 'proof' and talk from Contador's camp is overwhelming/convincing enough. At the moment I'm not too positive about it, the jury('s) can decide whatever they like (or has been told to them). The outcome might already be known to them, just waiting for the perfect moment to announce it.

For me there is only one outcome, but let's see what they will make of it.

Lolwut? Care to explain why it is that it would be a disgrace to cycling if Contador walks free? It's only been disgustingly political in that Contador's been saved time and time again from doing his time. He tested positive, he needs to do his time. What's disgraceful about that?

A disgraceful situation would be one where a multiple champion was allowed to continue competing after a positive test. What makes cycling look worse (and thereby less appealing to sponsors, so a weaker sport), people being punished for crimes they've committed or people getting away with government backing and "generous donations" to WADA?

Seriously, try and explain why this guy needs to walk free, I'd love to see it.

 

[happychappy]

Hope he doesn't get banned, it'll be a ****ing joke if he does.

 

[Caruut]

Hope he doesn't get banned, it'll be a ****ing joke if he does.

Go on, why?

 

[c&cfan]

Hope he doesn't get banned, it'll be a ****ing joke if he does.

yes.

only an absolute hypocrite cannot see why.

 

[Havetts]

yes.

only an absolute hypocrite cannot see why.

I dont see why, but I assume you are trolling and just trying to get people to respond like you usually do. So explain me why would only a hypocrite not see why someone who tested positive for a PED not be banned?

 

[Polish]

2 years for Clen and 2 years for Blood Transfusions.
Add 2 years for Chaingate and 2 more for the silly BangBang thing.
Eight years total - that sounds about right to me.

 

[Havetts]

2 years for Clen and 2 years for Blood Transfusions.
Add 2 years for Chaingate and 2 more for the silly BangBang thing.
Eight years total - that sounds about right to me.

This is why we ( I ) love you, Polish .

 

[The Hitch]

2 year ban.

Why would you hope he would be cleared?

I cant speak for Parrulo but I do hope Contador gets cleared rather than truth come out.

This is because a lot of my enemies want Contador banned - namely other sports with scum like Nadal and Guardiola and the media who will use it to claim that doping is only something that evil cyclists do and great fair play heroes of tennis, football and all other noble sports would never do such a thing.

Also I want to see Contador vs Evans in the tts next year because I have taken the position (which some are totally unable to comprehend) that Contador is the better tter.

Still Im resigned to the fact that Contador will probably get banned, and it will be a painful few months with the comments from retards in the media claiming my beloved cycling is the black sheep of world sport, and the wild celebrations I expect to see on here from Polish and ACF.


Vivat Albert Rex !!!!!

 

[Cobblestones]

I believe in the transfusion theory rather than the meat theory. Still, I expect Bertie to be cleared, or at least he will keep his 2010 TdF title.

Banning Bertie or making a mess out of the 2010 TdF now, would damage cycling more than it would do good. There was a time when banning would have been correct. That time has long since passed.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

2 years for Clen and 2 years for Blood Transfusions.
Add 2 years for Chaingate and 2 more for the silly BangBang thing.
Eight years total - that sounds about right to me.

then Andy should get 4 years.
2 for being a professional and dont even know how to shirft gear properly
2 for usually beeing a whiny little *****

 

[scullster46]

2 years for Clen and 2 years for Blood Transfusions.
Add 2 years for Chaingate and 2 more for the silly BangBang thing.
Eight years total - that sounds about right to me.

You're forgetting 2 years for disobeying team orders and attacking. You could probably add another 2 on top of that just cause he has a lot to learn

 

[mewmewmew13]

ok finally put in a vote...
I think no ban because he will probably be lightly reprimanded and given either a complete clear or a suspended 'sentence'

 

[Parrulo]

2 year ban.



I cant speak for Parrulo but I do hope Contador gets cleared rather than truth come out.

This is because a lot of my enemies want Contador banned - namely other sports with scum like Nadal and Guardiola and the media who will use it to claim that doping is only something that evil cyclists do and great fair play heroes of tennis, football and all other noble sports would never do such a thing.

Also I want to see Contador vs Evans in the tts next year because I have taken the position (which some are totally unable to comprehend) that Contador is the better tter.

Still Im resigned to the fact that Contador will probably get banned, and it will be a painful few months with the comments from retards in the media claiming my beloved cycling is the black sheep of world sport, and the wild celebrations I expect to see on here from Polish and ACF.


Vivat Albert Rex !!!!!

actually you are pretty much speaking for me hitch, i am tired of hearing dumb people saying cyclists are the only ones that dope inclused some people i know( not my close friends as those are pretty smart people and get the full picture of how sport works)

 

[auscyclefan94]

Why does he get to come back late 2012 if he gets a two year ban? Sorry but that doesn't make sense nor sounds fair. He has only been banned for a short time.

 

[The Hitch]

Why does he get to come back late 2012 if he gets a two year ban? Sorry but that doesn't make sense nor sounds fair. He has only been banned for a short time.

That would only happen if they took away his 2011 season which would hence count as a ban so late 2012 would be 2 years from the moment his positive was found.

Pretty simple.

Also since his ban would expire 5 days after the Vuelta starts he wouldnt have much to return to in 2012 anyway so would have to wait till 2013 to actually make a comeback, which would be more like a 2 and a half year ban.

 

[biker77]

I hope he is innocent and cleared. Picograms of a substance mid-tour does not make sense. Anyone here willing to resign from their job if some sport drink or beef that you ate has a miniscule trace of a performance enhancing substance?

I realize I am totally giving AC the benefit of the doubt, yet the tour next year will be so much more interesting.