What's Frankie Dettori on?

[summerhill]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/20316457
What's Frankie on?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/20316457
What's Frankie on?

HGH?

10 char

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

He's a flat jockey so almost certainly a diuretic. Weight problems have beset a number of jockeys over the years and as they get older it is harder for them to keep their weight down. On the flat every once counts.

Or if like Kieron Fallon it'll be coke.

 

[RichWalk]

A horse...... as above one would suspect a weight loss drug

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Wasnt he caught with coke before he was really famous with that amazing day at royal ascot ...long time ago.

 

[thirteen]

from a Newsnight interview in 1999, talking about before the ban:

"I took Lasix, pee pills, diuretics, laxatives; all sorts," he said. When asked whether he still took pills he said: "I try not to."

 

[Dr. Maserati]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/20316457
What's Frankie on?

His horse, six hours a day - what are you on?

 

[Avoriaz]

I would imagine some kind of stimulant. This was Arc de Triomphe day, and the day before he was racing in new York. Must have been pretty tired...

 

[armchairclimber]

Blimmin Italians, can't stay clean for toffee.

I wonder if this is why he and Sheikh Mohammed have parted company.

 

[Sarcastic Wet Trout]

Your mom.

But it's an on-and-off type of relationship.

 

[enrecul]

His horse, six hours a day - what are you on?

This made me laugh out loud

 

[blackcat]

from a Newsnight interview in 1999, talking about before the ban:

"I took Lasix, pee pills, diuretics, laxatives; all sorts," he said. When asked whether he still took pills he said: "I try not to."

pigs heart too?

Bjarne Riis admits to using crack, opium and ecstasy

 

[bobbins]

Today's Sun newspaper says cocaine.

 

[jamiephillips]

Testing in England seems pretty lax. Once a year jockeys get a breath and urine test by the racing authorities.

Edit- As an aside, that day where he won every race on the card at Ascot was named "The Magnificent Seven"

 

[Hawkwood]

His horse, six hours a day - what are you on?

`It's Not About The Horse'

 

[Avoriaz]

So doping isn't isolated with just Grand Tour winners.

Frankie has won over a dozen Classics

 

[Catwhoorg]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/20323087

His lawyer says something not performance enhancing.

Sort of correlates the Sun statement about a recreational drug without corroborating the specific drug mentioned

 

[taiwan]

A horse six hours a day, busting his...

...

Damn.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

To be fair. I'd take shed loads of class A drugs if I had to deal with cackling Willie Carson and Claire Balding on a regular basis.

 

[Carols]

I wonder if this is why he and Sheikh Mohammed have parted company.

More likely is that when Sheikh Mo's runner was withdrawn from a big race; Arc I think, Frankie chose to ride the Sheikh's 'arch rivals' runner.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

More likely is that when Sheikh Mo's runner was withdrawn from a big race; Arc I think, Frankie chose to ride the Sheikh's 'arch rivals' runner.

Godolphin have been gradually phasing Dettori out and Barzalona in all season (for whatever reason)

 

[Jalina]

The Godolphin/Dettori relationship was already deteriorating before he took the ride for Coolmore. It will be interesting to see if he ends up as Coolmore's unofficial number 1 next season if he isn't suspended. O'Brien's kid won't be able to fight the weight forever and they'll be looking elsewhere.

I doubt we'll ever get the full story on what lead to the split, but it may simply be an age thing. For whatever reason, often jockeys as they hit around the 40yo mark get the sh*ts, by that I mean fear starts to creep in. You can see it in their riding, less risks, don't take advantage of splits, don't take runs that are there, runs they would have taken earlier in their career. You see it over and over again with jockeys. Whether it's an age when you start thinking about your own mortality or something, or one fall too many, it's hard to pinpoint. In saying that though, the racing isn't anywhere near as tight in England and Europe as it is here in Australia, and I haven't seen much footage of Frankie's rides to see if this has been a factor.

Testing in England seems pretty lax. Once a year jockeys get a breath and urine test by the racing authorities.

The above I find astounding. Our jockeys get tested regularly, both on course during racing and the stewards also conduct random drug tests of both licenced jockeys and trackriders at trackwork. Word spreads like wildfire when the stewards turn up at trackwork but they get a few. It's pretty hard to hide if they wait for you to come off after working a horse.

How often are horses tested in England? We test all Group 1 runners as they arrive on course, an additional 5+ runners from each race get randomly tested as they arrive. All race winners get tested post-race and the stewards can turn up and conduct random tests and inspections at the stables whenever they want. Over the recent carnival, tubing equipment was found with horses on race morning during random inspections.

In additon, for races such as the Melbourne Cup, the runners have a security guard with them for 24 hours leading up to the race so it s impossible for them to receive any illegal treatment in this time. The guards are employed by the racing club and report back what they see. Does anything like this happen in England?

As an aside, another article that may be of interest. Even the horses are following in Lance's footsteps! (I remember one vet who had a sealed box in his car marked ">insert name of trainer< vitamins". Yeah right, vitamins! LOL!

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/racings-dirty-secret-new-drug-scandal-to-hit-tracks/story-e6frf7kx-1226514337922

 

[Avoriaz]

The Godolphin/Dettori relationship was already deteriorating before he took the ride for Coolmore. It will be interesting to see if he ends up as Coolmore's unofficial number 1 next season if he isn't suspended. O'Brien's kid won't be able to fight the weight forever and they'll be looking elsewhere.

I think that is going to be Jamie Spencer. I'd like to see Joseph O'Brien have a go over the fences. Like you say, he's too tall to stay too light

 

[adamski101]

I think that is going to be Jamie Spencer. I'd like to see Joseph O'Brien have a go over the fences. Like you say, he's too tall to stay too light

won't be Spencer. he has already taken the job with Sheikh Fahad Al Thani. Think they will try and get another year out of Jospeh and then go after Ryan Moore.

 

[coinneach]

Weather too bad for riding a bike these days?