What's gonna happen then?

[luckyboy]

Don't remember seeing a poll so far. Given everything that has come out so far, what do people think will happen to AC?

Just interested in what people think.

 

[roundabout]

The lab in Cologne will publically promise not to make the mistake of catching a big name ever again.

Contador will win the Tour in 2011.

 

[python]

the spanish fed chief said he's probably getting the case early next week.

means wada and the uci put the sanction responsibility on them which is NOT going to be blood transfusion. faced with minimum 1 year or not guilty the spanish fed will go with not guilty.

 

[scribe]

Anything less than a 2 year ban is going to have an adverse impact on professional cycling. The cynicism in the peloton will become even more a factor on their determination to dope. The fans will have lost all faith on prospects of cleaning up the sport.

This is a lose/lose situation for cycling. Make no mistake about that. But it doesn't mean that one path isn't more right than the other.

 

[rolfrae]

Follow Coni's exampleand hand out a one-year ban?

Will give Contador time to work out a way around the new plasticizers test.

 

[erader]

if contador is slapped with a two-year ban (which now seems likely) he'll retire.

erader

 

[scribe]

if contador is slapped with a two-year ban (which now seems likely) he'll retire.

erader

I'd say he retires because he doesn't feel he can win clean, with the added pressure of a possible lifetime ban looming.

 

[erader]

I'd say he retires because he doesn't feel he can win clean, with the added pressure of a possible lifetime ban looming.

he can win clean if his opponents are clean....but of course they'll continue to dope. they all face lifetime bans when they return so i'm not sure why you think it's different for AC except for you don't like him. i think the shame will cause him to retire. contador has already said he has plenty of money.

erader

 

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[Wallace]

the spanish fed chief said he's probably getting the case early next week.

means wada and the uci put the sanction responsibility on them which is NOT going to be blood transfusion. faced with minimum 1 year or not guilty the spanish fed will go with not guilty.

I agree. I think Contador is going to walk, and the credibility of the sport (what little it has) is going to take a huge hit.

 

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[Jamsque]

UCI give him 3/6 months, WADA appeals but the case doesn't conclude at the CAS until after the 2011 Tour de France (which he is allowed to race despite being under investigation), at which point the suspension gets bumped up to 2 years.

 

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I'll bet you refuse to eat beef these days.

 

[python]

i think some of the poll options are incorrect. as far as i remember, wada did away with 3-6 and so forth charges. now the standard is 2 years that can potentially be reduced to 1 year and no less under some considerations.

when was the last time we heard of a 3 or 6 months ban ?

can someone read the code for me ?

was it ulle ?

 

[Wallace]

The plastics being off the chart... the test hasn't even been approved so they cannot call it a positive for transfusion.

There's the thing. A lot of scientists are saying the test is accurate, but since it hasn't been approved, it'll get tossed.

Of course everyone knows he's been proven guilty, but it won't matter.

The question is, what will they do when the test does get approved? Can they go back and test the samples again and toss him out of the sport for two years, or is that double jeopardy?

 

[scribe]

he can win clean if his opponents are clean....but of course they'll continue to dope. they all face lifetime bans when they return so i'm not sure why you think it's different for AC except for you don't like him. i think the shame will cause him to retire. contador has already said he has plenty of money.

erader

It's different for contador next to other riders (you bring this up) because he has expressed his intention of retiring here. Liking or not has nothing to do with my opinion, which is just as valid as yours.

 

[LugHugger]

No sanction.

Not because he's innocent, but because no one has the cojones to make this stick

 

[luckyboy]

i think some of the poll options are incorrect. as far as i remember, wada did away with 3-6 and so forth charges. now the standard is 2 years that can potentially be reduced to 1 year and no less under some considerations.

when was the last time we heard of a 3 or 6 months ban ?

can someone read the code for me ?

was it ulle ?

Ah ok, didn't know that.


2006
Wilmer Bravo of Venezuela tested positive for Prednisolone and Prednisone on 9 January 2006. The UCI summary of 'Decisions on Anti-Doping Rule Violations made in 2006' stated "disqualification and ineligibility for 4 months"
Tristan Valentin of France tested positive for Heptaminol on 6 June 2006. The UCI summary of 'Decisions on Anti-Doping Rule Violations made in 2006' states "disqualification and ineligibility for 6 months".

2007
Magno Prado Navaret of Brazil tested positive for Sibutramine 'in competition' on 27 April 2007. The UCI summary of 'Decisions on Anti-Doping Rule Violations made in 2007' stated "disqualification and ineligibility for 8 months."


Those are the latest ones I can find on the wiki list.

 

[Polish]

The main reason Lance was so unpopular with the TdF crowds earlier this decade was NOT because he was a doper, but because he GOT AWAY WITH IT.

Crowds shouting "doper doper" and "EPO" scrawled across the roads of France - it was an ugly period in the history of the TdF.

The same type of ugly scene will be played out on the roads of France if Alberto is given a pass. Only this time the shouts will be "Moo Moo" and the chalked drawings will be of "Blood Bags".

In addition, the Scientists have gotten the upper hand over the dopers for the first time in a long long time. The tide is truly turning. Dopers are dropping like flies. Bzzzz Bzzzz Splat.

To let Alberto off the hook at this point in time would be a catastrophe for the Fans, the Scientists, and for the image of Pro Cycling itself.

Whatever the maximum penalty for using clen should be applied - 2 years.
Send the message loud and clear. Vive le Tour. Vive le 2011 Tour.

 

[Irish2009]

The sad thing is the dopers are not getting caught, only the careless ones are.

 

[HoustonHammer]

i think some of the poll options are incorrect. as far as i remember, wada did away with 3-6 and so forth charges. now the standard is 2 years that can potentially be reduced to 1 year and no less under some considerations.

when was the last time we heard of a 3 or 6 months ban ?

can someone read the code for me ?

was it ulle ?

Code allows a minimum of zero ban and no results affects. In other words "Scott Free".

 

[HoustonHammer]

It'll play out just like Valverde. RFEC will refuse to take action on the grounds that prominent Spanish cyclists aren't subject to international rules and should be allowed to dope in any case. WADA will appeal it to the CAS and will win.

Result: Two year ban and loss of TdF title if plasticizer reports are true; otherwise one year ban and loss of TdF title.

 

[Mich78BEL]

This case will go to CAS anyhow, Contador won't accept the loss of his Tour-win plus any kind of ban, Wada won't accept anything less then the normal 2-year penalty.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I think there's a very good chance he'll walk free, and the UCI will support the decision as being "thorough and final".

Though yes WADA will appeal to CAS, this will be another big hit to cycling. Though I think you can't go much further down than where we are right now.

 

[ferryman]

No action against Contador I hope until blood boost is even slightly proved.

I can live with weight loss intent Like he needed it