Who is cleaner - Menchov or Sanchez?

[sars1981]

Just wondering who I should cheer for for 3rd ...

 

[Ferminal]

Uhh, Menchov was supposedly a client of Humanplasma and Sanchez is one of those evil Spaniards.

 

[hrotha]

How are we supposed to know? I'm all for speculating a bit but this might be too much.

 

[sars1981]

ya i was looking for the "educated guess" variety of answer

 

[Dewulf]

Uhh, Menchov was supposedly a client of Humanplasma and Sanchez is one of those evil Spaniards.

lol

[just adding this to make up the minimum 10 character requirement for posting.]

 

[The Hitch]

sanchez is 33 and never won a gt. He didnt do well until recently. That might mean something to those who say that this is a cleaner era. Some say that horner lost out because he wasnt doping and is doing well now because there is less so you might say the same about sanchez.

 

[Willy_Voet]

Some say that horner lost out because he wasnt doping and is doing well now because there is less so you might say the same about sanchez.

I distinctly remember Horner's "professionalism" being questioned.

 

[centri]

Uhh, Menchov was supposedly a client of Humanplasma and Sanchez is one of those evil Spaniards.

So what qualifies a Spanish person/rider to be evil?

 

[hrotha]

Uhh, Menchov was supposedly a client of Humanplasma and Sanchez is one of those evil Spaniards.

Menchov is double evil because he's practically Navarrese!

 

[nvpacchi]

sanchez is 33 and never won a gt. He didnt do well until recently. That might mean something to those who say that this is a cleaner era. Some say that horner lost out because he wasnt doping and is doing well now because there is less so you might say the same about sanchez.

Sanchez has progressively improved slightly in each of his GC participations.

Tour 6th > 3rd or 4th

Vuelta 15th > 10th> 7th > 3rd > 2nd

No massive jumps in improvement, just consistently getting better over time.

 

[Benotti69]

Menchov is Rabobank, how clean can they be when Rasmussen rode for them and he thought doping was ok unless you went over the 50% hemaocrit ...

Menchov beat a very motivated Danilo Di Luca in the 09 Gd'Italia, who was on cera. Di Luca was using the L'Aquila earthquake(06/04/09) as his reason to win it that year.

 

[The Hitch]

Menchov is Rabobank, how clean can they be when Rasmussen rode for them and he thought doping was ok unless you went over the 50% hemaocrit ...

Menchov beat a very motivated Danilo Di Luca in the 09 Gd'Italia, who was on cera. Di Luca was using the L'Aquila earthquake(06/04/09) as his reason to win it that year.

did he say something like this as an excuse for the doping?

 

[perico]

Sanchez has progressively improved slightly in each of his GC participations.

Tour 6th > 3rd or 4th

Vuelta 15th > 10th> 7th > 3rd > 2nd

No massive jumps in improvement, just consistently getting better over time.

Sammy Sanchez finished outside the time limit on mtn stages in his first two tours.

 

[Ferminal]

So what qualifies a Spanish person/rider to be evil?

Uhh, it's a running joke.

 

[Master50]

The one that uses soap in the shower or the last 1 out of the shower is the cleanest.

 

[craig1985]

I think blackcat said that Samu Sanchez couldn't climb a lick until Igor González de Galdeano took over. But I like Samu more then Menchov, so I will cheer for Samu.

 

[sars1981]

Hmmm. Well since there seems to be nothing on them either way ima cheer for Sanchez as Spain already has the winner. Better that another nation share some of the glory.

 

[skidmark]

Alright, let's take the focus even farther back from national stereotypes.

They're both cyclists. Ergo, they both dope. Equally.

 

[hrotha]

I think blackcat said that Samu Sanchez couldn't climb a lick until Igor González de Galdeano took over. But I like Samu more then Menchov, so I will cheer for Samu.

I think he's always been good at climbing hills.

 

[Benotti69]

did he say something like this as an excuse for the doping?

no but he was highly motivated, as this would have lifted him to demi-god status in his home region (Abruzzo) where the earthquake took place and secured him some big sponsorship deals there to set him up for a few years.

He denied he doped.