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Wiggins to release blood test records

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Bradley Wiggins said he would publish his blood tests from the last two years to dispel any doubts about the legitimacy of his surprise fourth-place finish at the Tour de France.

The 29-year-old triple Olympic track pursuit champion was praised by French media for his performance, which equalled the best by a Briton in the race, but suspicions regarding drug use remain high in the sport.


http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE56S1WM20090729
 
Mar 18, 2009
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anubisza said:
Bradley Wiggins said he would publish his blood tests from the last two years to dispel any doubts about the legitimacy of his surprise fourth-place finish at the Tour de France.

The 29-year-old triple Olympic track pursuit champion was praised by French media for his performance, which equalled the best by a Briton in the race, but suspicions regarding drug use remain high in the sport.


http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE56S1WM20090729

Good for him!!!!
 
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The best news coming out of the race this year. I've been high in him because of his stated ethics. His performance this Tour left me with doubts. Good news, indeed!
 
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Would have to say, though, that this could easily be a ruse. Releasing blood tests would be easy if one was sure contraband was undetectable in the blood. I know that sounds super cynical, but I'm sorry I just can't trust any of them.
 
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sars1981 said:
Would have to say, though, that this could easily be a ruse. Releasing blood tests would be easy if one was sure contraband was undetectable in the blood. I know that sounds super cynical, but I'm sorry I just can't trust any of them.

While I can understand the cynicism, it does tend to feed on itself and make things 'worse'. Or perhaps it makes things easier, especially if you feel admiration or hope has been betrayed too many times before.

Of course, if we think there is no way to prove one's innocence, then it's really difficult not to be cynical!
 
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Izoard said:
While I can understand the cynicism, it does tend to feed on itself and make things 'worse'. Or perhaps it makes things easier, especially if you feel admiration or hope has been betrayed too many times before.

Of course, if we think there is no way to prove one's innocence, then it's really difficult not to be cynical!
it would be much better, for Wiggins to be truthful.

Say "the public should be sceptical, they should think my performance was not credible, if I was a cycling fan, I would not believe it".

That would be more transparent. Can't prove a negative in this case, for those who know. For his blood work, I present into evidence, Ashenden's post-it note.
 
The only real question I have is where are these blood values coming from? And just exactly what numbers is he releasing?

If I recall, LA released some numbers post-Giro, and they were met with a certain amount of skepticism regarding just how truthful they were.
 
CN reports the numbers here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-values-point-to-cleaner-peloton

My initial reaction is:
- there are only 4 numbers for 2008 and 8 numbers for 2009.
- they scatter significantly between 13 and 16 g/dl (haemaglobin).
With that number and scatter in data-points, I think statistical uncertainty precludes any definitive conclusions - other than average and maximum values.

Concerning truthfullness of the values, hopefully someone - eg CN - will ask authorities (national fed and UCI) whether these values are compatible with what is in their file on him. Ideally, national fed / UCI will make a statement whether they are correct or not.

I think it is a great step towards transparency by wiggins, but you'd need more data to be able to say anything. For this reason, I'm also not thrilled about the CN article carrying the title it does - doesn't give the impression journalists considered statistics and made their own conclusion.
 
craig1985 said:
IMO it should be mandatory that riders release their blood profiles, power wattage etc.

Knowing those numbers for your competitors - even in a clean world - would give a significant advantage. Of course, if everybody does it, the game is even. But I still think this means you'd know whether your competitor on-form/ill etc.

Certainly, wattage would be a huge advantage for competitors, and clearly give away any weakness in form. The end result is even more tactics decided on drawing board/team car and less instinct.

One could perhaps say that blood numbers should be released at end of season.
 
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spin fellas.

I do not concern myself with the levels going down.

I want to know if his blood volume was natural at the start of the Tour, or did he come in 500 ml or 1 litre over his natural volume.

Don't care about refills, illegal as they are. I want to know about a potential starting volume. Did he start transfused?
 
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blackcat said:
it would be much better, for Wiggins to be truthful.

Say "the public should be sceptical, they should think my performance was not credible, if I was a cycling fan, I would not believe it".

That's pretty much what he said after the first week of the Tour:

“I think a lot of people think I'm on drugs to be honest. I'm sure of it. I know how the sport is,” he said.

“A lot of guys are going to be thinking. 'What's Wiggins been doing?' That's unfortunate but I'm not Schumacher, I'm not Bernhard Kohl. I've worked hard for this....”

And indeed his comments on Di Luca's positive from the Giro on his twitter feed are a classic.
 
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mercuryrising said:
How do you propose going about measuring that!
there are tests. Not too accurate, and the CO will diminish performance in the day(s) immediately after.

There are multiple tests brewing. But none have been ratified. Accuracy is one of the problems.
 
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hmronnow said:
CN reports the numbers here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-values-point-to-cleaner-peloton

My initial reaction is:
- there are only 4 numbers for 2008 and 8 numbers for 2009.
- they scatter significantly between 13 and 16 g/dl (haemaglobin).
With that number and scatter in data-points, I think statistical uncertainty precludes any definitive conclusions - other than average and maximum values.

Concerning truthfullness of the values, hopefully someone - eg CN - will ask authorities (national fed and UCI) whether these values are compatible with what is in their file on him. Ideally, national fed / UCI will make a statement whether they are correct or not.

I think it is a great step towards transparency by wiggins, but you'd need more data to be able to say anything. For this reason, I'm also not thrilled about the CN article carrying the title it does - doesn't give the impression journalists considered statistics and made their own conclusion.

Yeah. He has been tested 12 times in the past year and a half? I guess the UCI and WADA are blowing all their money on testing Armstrong.

Nobody wants talk about the increase in hemoglobin and stimulation index from Limoges to Sion? A quick way to get hematocrit (not the most accurate) is to multiply Hgb by 3. His hematocrit went from 42 to 46.5 (guessing that point at Sion is ~15.5). That's a 10% increase between the 2 rest days.

It doesn't necessarily indicate doping, but it is kinda confusing.

I think releasing blood profiles is just a PR game.
 
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sars1981 said:
Yes it will!!!!!

(let me guess, LA and Contador won't...)

If Contradoper and Wiggins both released their blood values from the TDF...And they had very similar values; Who would be more likely to be labeled as a big d' d' d' d' Doper!?

Everybody knows Lance & Contador blood dope with their own blood and use other drugs. And everybody knows that Lance and Alberto both have natural talent. Yet Wiggins races right with them and launches attacks on them, totally clean.
 

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