Will Chris Boardman be on the French list for taking EPO.

[pmcg76]

With the French senate releasing their list of rider's who took EPO in 98, will Chris Boardman be absent as he had a reputation as a clean rider in a dirty era. I know many refuse to believe that Boardman might have been clean so time to show your beliefs.

 

[ebandit]

truth

we're talking pro cycling but i have always believed that chris rode clean

it's not as though he ever ripped it up the cols..............he did what he did

very well but it was always limited

Mark L

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Shoot... I voted the wrong button. Can a mod change that?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Boardman is one of the few people of that era I have some faith is clean. Would be pretty gutted if it turned out not to be the case.

 

[ebandit]

shame

Shoot... I voted the wrong button. Can a mod change that?

now chris's memory is forever tainted.............shame on you!

Mark L

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

now chris's memory is forever tainted.............shame on you!

Mark L

I know. Perhaps it is some kind of Freudian slip? Then again all Brits dope or didn't you know?

 

[Zweistein]

If he was using EPO, he would be the first person who's climbing didn't improve.

And he had problems with low testosterone and retired at 32 because of that. It would be goofy for him to take EPO but not take a steroid for his hormone problem.

 

[the sceptic]

How many tours would he have won if he didnt focus on the track?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

How many tours would he have won if he didnt focus on the track?

So do you think he did or not?

 

[Zweistein]

How many tours would he have won if he didnt focus on the track?

Maybe, 1 if he rode with SKY.

 

[hrotha]

If he was using EPO, he would be the first person who's climbing didn't improve.

And he had problems with low testosterone and retired at 32 because of that. It would be goofy for him to take EPO but not take a steroid for his hormone problem.

Boardman was actually quite a decent climber until he decided he couldn't be bothered with the GC of stage races anymore.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

They have two samples, so, either he is hot, inconclusive, missing or in the green.

And even if he is green he could have been preparing before the Tour.

If he was using EPO, he would be the first person who's climbing didn't improve.

You missed the Dauphinee 1995?

 

[Eyeballs Out]

He had some pretty good GC results in the big one week races like Dauphine Lib, Romandie, Paris-Nice and it was during the peak EPO era. Impressive if done clean

 

[the sceptic]

So do you think he did or not?

In the middle of the dark years i dont know how it would be possible to do that clean. Didnt Rominger get "prepared" by Dr Ferrari for his record?

 

[Zweistein]

Boardman was actually quite a decent climber until he decided he couldn't be bothered with the GC of stage races anymore.

for a week maybe.

 

[andy1234]

They have two samples, so, either he is hot, inconclusive, missing or in the green.

And even if he is green he could have been preparing before the Tour. You missed the Dauphinee 1995?

Why would a rider taking a non detectable super drug, use it, but decide to not use it during the event they are targeting?

Also Boardman could always climb with the best on a given day, just not with any consistency. Even in his first full season as a pro, he won a medium mountain stage of the 94 Dauphine by almost 2 minutes. In the 1 week tours, he consistently climbed with the best for most of his career, until he started to decline towards the late 90s.

 

[martinvickers]

How many tours would he have won if he didnt focus on the track?

erm..none. He was a poor recoverer, and his climbing was not top notch.

And he rode in the middle of the EPO era.

NB. and before anyone starts, by top Notch I clearly mean climbing elite. He was, as pointed out earlier, actually a very decent climber - but not in the very highest order of mountaineers.

And the point about recovery is probably just as, if not more, relevant.

As is the era, come to that.

 

[martinvickers]

If he was using EPO, he would be the first person who's climbing didn't improve.

And he had problems with low testosterone and retired at 32 because of that. It would be goofy for him to take EPO but not take a steroid for his hormone problem.

I vaguely remember some story that his team actually investigated a genuine TUE for testosterone, but he was uncomfortable with it and it came to nothing- but I genuinely can't pin that down, it could be my imagination.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

In the middle of the dark years i dont know how it would be possible to do that clean. Didnt Rominger get "prepared" by Dr Ferrari for his record?

Assuming we are talking about the hour record... there would be a lot of records where the equipment would have been a factor as well as the potential use of PEDs.

The record Boardman broke in 2000 (?) where he used comparable equipment to Merckx was just by 10m or so. I think Merckx also went out like a bullet to try and beat various records along the way. The samples he gave for this he left to be tested indefinitely I believe.

 

[andy1234]

I vaguely remember some story that his team actually investigated a genuine TUE for testosterone, but he was uncomfortable with it and it came to nothing- but I genuinely can't pin that down, it could be my imagination.

They asked the UCI for a TUE for testosterone in 98, but the UCI turned it down.
The UCI claimed it had to restrict TUE approval, in the light of the Festina affair

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

They have two samples, so, either he is hot, inconclusive, missing or in the green.

And even if he is green he could have been preparing before the Tour.

Then the same could be said of Lemond and Bassons, no?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

They asked the UCI for a TUE for testosterone in 98, but the UCI turned it down.
The UCI claimed it had to restrict TUE approval, in the light of the Festina affair

Clearly he should have tried for a TUE again in 99.

 

[BroDeal]

They have two samples, so, either he is hot, inconclusive, missing or in the green.

And even if he is green he could have been preparing before the Tour. You missed the Dauphinee 1995?

These are results of 2004 EPO test procedures and standards. Unless the rider injected within the previous three days or so prior to a test, a test should have come out negative or at least below the threshold for a positive.

There is still a question of how the French connected rider names with sample codes. I cannot imagine the UCI would have handed the forms over to the French. Does the race organizer have copies?

 

[Zweistein]

Assuming we are talking about the hour record... there would be a lot of records where the equipment would have been a factor as well as the potential use of PEDs.

The record Boardman broke in 2000 (?) where he used comparable equipment to Merckx was just by 10m or so. I think Merckx also went out like a bullet to try and beat various records along the way. The samples he gave for this he left to be tested indefinitely I believe.

Are you talking about Merckx's? Because people have reported that Merckx couldn't sit still after eh record because he was so hopped up on amphetamines.

 

[Le breton]

…..
And he had problems with low testosterone…..

Lucky for him, otherwise he would have had 14, not 4 kids to provide for