Will he ever get popped?

[Netserk]

If Lance had given Floyd a job he might be in the midst of a Texas gubernatorial run right now.

had the team been sponsored by disco from the start thatd have been enough

 

[Berniece]

Yes, he will get popped when the results come back from the ITA (things that go bump in the night) testing.

Those results would’ve already been disclosed if there was something wrong

 

[peterfin]

Those results would’ve already been disclosed if there was something wrong

I doubt it. I don't know the protocol but I suppose the team is informed first if there is anomaly to allow them to defend themselves. The UCI may also time the disclosure to minimize impact on its season if this involves a big name. Contador's case is an example. While his urine sample was taken on July 21st, only in late September did the UCI announced that Contador had tested positive for trace amounts of clenbuterol during his 2010 Tour de France run.

 

[awavey]

I doubt it. I don't know the protocol but I suppose the team is informed first if there is anomaly to allow them to defend themselves. The UCI may also time the disclosure to minimize impact on its season if this involves a big name. Contador's case is an example. While his urine sample was taken on July 21st, only in late September did the UCI announced that Contador had tested positive for trace amounts of clenbuterol during his 2010 Tour de France run.

took 2 weeks for the UCI to tell Froome, & nearly 3 months for it to become public about the salbutamol test issue.

Im not sure if the tests will necessarily uncover anything immediately anyway, there is debate about whether the current testing could even find something along the lines of what we think the ITA were looking for, of course without their evidence presented publicly (which I totally get btw and agree with the reasons not to do so) we are left somewhat in the dark.

but theyve got 10 years now to develop one, and that might be the biggest point of the whole thing.

 

[masking_agent]

In this day and age without a reporter like David Walsh, (and the quick to launch defamation lawsuits) I don't see it happening even after 8 tours won ? He is a good guy in the peloton and good with his team so any ex teammates will not go against him (ie landis, hamilton) at least for now. So he'll be the next Usain Bolt.. Riding all and pretending he was always clean.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I doubt it. I don't know the protocol but I suppose the team is informed first if there is anomaly to allow them to defend themselves. The UCI may also time the disclosure to minimize impact on its season if this involves a big name. Contador's case is an example. While his urine sample was taken on July 21st, only in late September did the UCI announced that Contador had tested positive for trace amounts of clenbuterol during his 2010 Tour de France run.

The test was done at 5 AM (just one hour before the normal testing window opens). It's more likely that the other guy (tested at 2 AM) will get busted. I don't think either will obviously.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I hope that some more comes out about the napolitano link with the devo team. I guess they switch to porridge once they go WT

 

[ColonelKidneyBeans]

I hope that some more comes out about the napolitano link with the devo team. I guess they switch to porridge once they go WT

The devo team is in fact the women development team, not the men dev squad, he's only linked to the women side and i don't know how much the two sides are intertwined, if at all.

 

[Rob5091]

took 2 weeks for the UCI to tell Froome, & nearly 3 months for it to become public about the salbutamol test issue.

Im not sure if the tests will necessarily uncover anything immediately anyway, there is debate about whether the current testing could even find something along the lines of what we think the ITA were looking for, of course without their evidence presented publicly (which I totally get btw and agree with the reasons not to do so) we are left somewhat in the dark.

but theyve got 10 years now to develop one, and that might be the biggest point of the whole thing.

Froome's salbutamol case was only known because it was leaked to the press. Otherwise it would have disappeared into Sir Dave's vault of things never to be mentioned.

 

[Rob5091]

I hope that some more comes out about the napolitano link with the devo team. I guess they switch to porridge once they go WT

Another one of those cases with unanswered questions, like, where did he get the PED from and were they taken by the riders?

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I'm convinced that the sweeping under the rug of the Froome Salbutamol positive was the point at which the sport said, "We've got to stop shooting ourselves in the foot" and decided to move in another direction. They want no more Armstrongs.

I’m pretty sure Contador only got popped because of Lance, who hated him.

 

[memyselfandI]

Too big to fail from the UCI's perspective. It took the FBI and a large number of witnesses testifying under oath to force Armstrong's confession.

Considering what country and how big resources sits behind, I don't believe nothing ever comes out. Too big resources, good and bad, for anyone in this planet.

 

[SorelyBoy]

If UAE are being naughty (it would be reasonable to think that there is a fairly high chance of this, possibly via a multi-dimensional super programme that enables year round domination), then there is always a risk that something will go wrong, that news will get out and they'll get exposed. If something can go wrong it usually does, right? The more people involved then the more likely that the programme gets compromised. So, if you are heading up this programme, if you are involved, you would employ a risk mitigation strategy. Call it an information security strategy which stops proprietary programme related information or programme related artefacts to be disclosed to those who aren't authorised. Like the administrative or legal authorities. The press. Suppliers. Anyone potentially adjacent to the programme if not directly involved in it (and who might start to get suspicious). For example, employees not 'read in' to what's going on. You want compartmentalisation between the various programme elements as much as is practically possible. You want to build in plausible deniability for the top people (remind you of anything?). Plus you want the legal side to be water tight with some very punitive NDAs attached. And of course you need to pay your staff very well, and if they leave they need to be looked after and feel that they have been well treated. Then you need a clean up process that can respond very fast if something gets out or is in danger of getting out. And, ideally, you would like to enact some sort of regulatory capture, to help further reduce the risk and subsequent impact of any unforeseen and unpleasant incident. At the end of the day, all of that requires a huge amount of resources to implement. And despite all of that, the human elements remains. Tick tock.

 

[Low is rhe new high]

There will be more and more open talk about the abnormality that is Pogacar. https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...lmose-what-more-can-i-do-as-pogacar-gap-grows Other riders will get more and more frustrated and something has to give. I belive that he will make deal with the governing powers that he will retire after the olympics if they stop asking questions. As long as he stays retired he will get a way with it.

 

[pastronef]

There will be more and more open talk about the abnormality that is Pogacar. https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...lmose-what-more-can-i-do-as-pogacar-gap-grows Other riders will get more and more frustrated and something has to give. I belive that he will make deal with the governing powers that he will retire after the olympics if they stop asking questions. As long as he stays retired he will get a way with it.

well Olympic 2028 are still far away. he has 2 Roubaix, 2 TDF, and many other races to ride/win until then

 

[Low is rhe new high]

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well Olympic 2028 are still far away. he has 2 Roubaix, 2 TDF, and many other races to ride/win until then

Yeah thats enough time for him and Mauro to win a 6th tdf PR and itzula, then no one can argue that they are GOATs forever