Will Tinkoff be able to pay his bills in 2015?

[TourOfTexas]

Maybe Sagan and Contador should ask for an advance....

 

[LaFlorecita]

As far as I'm aware all teams have to have the money for the 2015 season in a seperate account to receive a license.

And it was either Feltrin or Tinkov himself who said the team is secure for at least the next 3 years.

 

[ILovecycling]

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/gallery/oleg-tinkov

I think his 1 400 000 000 is ok

 

[BeagRigh]

I'm going to suggest Tinkoff's is smart enough to have a fair proportion of his cash is something a bit more stable than Rubles!

 

[May0maniac]

I'm going to suggest Tinkoff's is smart enough to have a fair proportion of his cash is something a bit more stable than Rubles!

That's pretty obvious, most oligarchs have.

 

[roundabout]

I'd be more worried about whatever money Venezuela is paying Savio suddenly running out

 

[Electress]

Tinkoff could probably pay for the whole team many times over out of his petty cash!

 

[roundabout]

Just because he may be able to doesn't mean that it would always make sense for him to do so.

 

[Electress]

Just because he may be able to doesn't mean that it would always make sense for him to do so.

Clearly an astute businessman, though I think his personal love of cycling is more important than his business sense in his sponsorship, tbh.

He does strike me though as the kind of guy that might change his mind in a morning having just fallen out of love with something / someone and moved on…

 

[ray j willings]

Will Tinkoff be able to pay his bills in 2015?

I have no idea. I don't know him so I could only make a guess from media reports. That guess would be "YES he's fu%kin loaded"

 

[infeXio]

Apparently Bjarne Riis has been suspended by the weirdo that is Oleg Tinkov; http://www.bt.dk/cykling/cykelchok-bjar ... -af-holdet

No further reason given as to why it has happened, nor do they want to confirm it to the public, so as of now, I guess the rationale behind it is pure speculation. Despite the relative lack of results thus far, it seems utterly daft.
I can't imagine the riders being too fond of the decision.

- Might be clinic-related - who knows - but I thought I'd post it here.

 

[TMP402]

BTW Tinkov is no longer a billionaire, so the economy is hitting:

Forbes have published the 2015 World Billionaires List, and 138 were missing from last year’s list of the wealthiest people on the planet. It was bad news in particular for Russia’s rich, as 28 slipped down. Amongst the casualties was the owner of the Tinkoff Saxo team, Oleg Tinkov.

According to Forbes, Tinkov’s credit card company, Tinkov Credit Systems, dropped more than 85% since its late 2013 IPO as more Russians defaulted on payments. He has lost $930 million in the past year.

http://www.thebikecomesfirst.com/bad-ne ... eg-tinkov/

 

[sir fly]

I'm sure he's far from satisfied with the team's contribution to his wealth. I wouldn't say a cycling team was a good business move. His financial and sporting interests are in collision. How can you attract British clients if you're representing yourself like their fierce rival on the road?

 

[Wattie]

Riis suspended for lack of results. The season is little more than a month old and he is making such a judgment! I guess he is disappointed that this is actually a sport and he cannot simply buy success. Apparently he was prepared to accept nothing less than victory in Milan San Remo, but anyone with a knowledge of the sport knows that a race like MSR is hugely unpredictable, or does he believe that his money can determine the outcome? Tinkov, it seems, believes that he can buy success just as he can use his money to make the sport behave according to his personal whim (three grand tours challenge idea). His values are not in my view conducive to proper sporting competition. He seems to be saying "I am paying this much money and you will win or else"; am I the only one who is worried that such a win at all cost mentality leads to exactly the problems the sport is trying to recover from? Tinkov, despite the money he has brought to the sport, is not what it needs and the sooner he finds a new toy the better.

 

[TourOfTexas]

Probably suspended for lack of team direction. Crap like Breschel not leading out Sagan in MSR is redonkulous.

 

[Gigs_98]

I think it was a mistake to buy sagan. He is extremely talented but he became worse last year and this season he doesn't look good at all. A second point is that Tinkoff probably hopes, that sagan and contador will ride at the tdf but I think its very difficult to support a sprinter and a gc rider at the same time. For example, what will they do at the cobble stage? Sagan will definitely try to win that stage but even for sagan that will be almost impossible without anyone who supports him. On the other hand Contador needs the help of teammates too because he really not that good on cobbles.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Everyone including Sagan will have to support Contador on the cobbles.

 

[May0maniac]

I think it was a mistake to buy sagan. He is extremely talented but he became worse last year and this season he doesn't look good at all. A second point is that Tinkoff probably hopes, that sagan and contador will ride at the tdf but I think its very difficult to support a sprinter and a gc rider at the same time. For example, what will they do at the cobble stage? Sagan will definitely try to win that stage but even for sagan that will be almost impossible without anyone who supports him. On the other hand Contador needs the help of teammates too because he really not that good on cobbles.

Sagan isn't the Guy that needs a sprint train, as long as he's able to grab Kittel's wheel he'll be fine, the lack of support in the classics on the other hand is a problem.
Sagan was able to coexist with Nibali and I don't think that working for Contador on the cobbles will be a big problem for him, his priority will be the Green jersey and at least one stage win in the TdF.

 

[Gigs_98]

Sagan isn't the Guy that needs a sprint train, as long as he's able to grab Kittel's wheel he'll be fine, the lack of support in the classics on the other hand is a problem.
Sagan was able to coexist with Nibali and I don't think that working for Contador on the cobbles will be a big problem for him, his priority will be the Green jersey and at least one stage win in the TdF.

But why should you buy sagan if you don't let him ride for the stage win on the cobbles stage. That is where sagan is at his best, so if you only need a good sprinter there would have been better opportunities for tinkoff

 

[LaFlorecita]

I doubt they signed Sagan just for the cobbled stage in the Tour.

 

[infeXio]

Sagan isn't the Guy that needs a sprint train, as long as he's able to grab Kittel's wheel he'll be fine, the lack of support in the classics on the other hand is a problem.
Sagan was able to coexist with Nibali and I don't think that working for Contador on the cobbles will be a big problem for him, his priority will be the Green jersey and at least one stage win in the TdF.

But why should you buy sagan if you don't let him ride for the stage win on the cobbles stage. That is where sagan is at his best, so if you only need a good sprinter there would have been better opportunities for tinkoff

Yes, because Sagan was signed by Tinkoff to ONLY win the stage with cobbles in the TdF... not to contend for classics or any of the other races...

Edit: Flo was a tad faster with the same response

 

[Gigs_98]

Sagan isn't the Guy that needs a sprint train, as long as he's able to grab Kittel's wheel he'll be fine, the lack of support in the classics on the other hand is a problem.
Sagan was able to coexist with Nibali and I don't think that working for Contador on the cobbles will be a big problem for him, his priority will be the Green jersey and at least one stage win in the TdF.

But why should you buy sagan if you don't let him ride for the stage win on the cobbles stage. That is where sagan is at his best, so if you only need a good sprinter there would have been better opportunities for tinkoff

Yes, because Sagan was signed by Tinkoff to ONLY win the stage with cobbles in the TdF... not to contend for classics or any of the other races...

Edit: Flo was a tad faster with the same response

I don't say that sagan was signed by tinkoff only for that stage. I think that they bought sagan for stages which may end in a sprint but could also effect the gc. Of course they also wanted sagan for the classics and other races but to sign such a rider and not let him go for the stage win on hilly stages (and in the case of this years tour the stage with the cobbles) is just a waste of money.

 

[infeXio]

If the teams ultimate goal in the tour is to win the GC with Contador, it's hardly a waste of money to have one your best riders on the cobbles help him out, despite possibly missing the opportunity to win the stage, if said stage - as you pointed out - can (and probably will) affect the GC.

 

[sir fly]

Sagan is hired to feature in the classics.
He's not a superdomestique like Ekimov has been. Doesn't ride with teammates on his mind.