World Championships 2024: Men's Road Race (September 29)

[joe_papp]

And then the next questions are: Okay, "amazing", but was it exciting - is this the way we want a world championship race to be?

I thought it was exciting. Good commentary helps a lot though. (And the coverage I watched via Tiz which featured Robbie McEwen was good.)
And the fact that Pog attacked w/ 100km to go meant the compelling part of the coverage was twice as long as I'd've expected.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Feels like the gap has been 40”-1’ for the last 3 laps. Insane.

Reading all of these posts later, the gap always being 40 seconds reminds me of "it's an 8".

 

[Salvarani]

The only tactics in this race were bad tactics. Remco and MVDP should have been on Pogi's wheel every meter of this race, even when he was pissing in the bushes.

They had one job. Respond when he attacks. Instead they relied on lesser riders to reel him back, when they knew he had Tratnik infront to tow him.

Then solo from 50k... 220k into the race. At that point you either have to be stronger than him or cooperate well with other riders. Neither was the case here.

 

[Danskebjerge]

And the fact that Pog attacked w/ 100km to go meant the compelling part of the coverage was twice as long as I'd've expected.

If it hadn't been the top favourite for the gold medal - a rider who was already the world number one, with countless solo wins in his career -, I might have agreed with you.

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[Danskebjerge]

Instead they relied on lesser riders to reel him back

Don't think they relied on anything. He was the top favourite. It was red alert when he attacked, and they knew it. They just couldn't follow him, and they couldn't catch him afterwards, even though they had 2-3 hours to do it.

It's happened a hundred times before - Pogacar goes early, and it's game over. And people have complained about the bad chasing in just as many cases. They just won't accept that there is something more important than tactics and cooperation, and that's pushing MANY more watts than all the others.

 

[Salvarani]

Don't think they relied on anything. He was the top favourite. It was red alert when he attacked, and they knew it. They just couldn't follow him, and they couldn't catch him afterwards, even though they had 2-3 hours to do it.

It's happened a hundred times before - Pogacar goes early, and it's game over. And people have complained about the bad chasing in just as many cases. They just won't accept that there is something more important than tactics and cooperation, and that's pushing MANY more watts than all the others.

Neither Remco and VdP seemed to be in a great position to be able to respond in the first place. They werent paying attention.

So that they couldnt follow is something we will never know. They definitely should have either way.

Because you cant tell me the ones who tried... Bagioli and a rider from US, who was dropped, was stronger than Mvdp or Remco at the point of the attack. I doubt Pog would have dropped either and that first attack would have been neutralized.

They were out of position or thought it was foolish, but it quickly changed when their teammates disappeared while Pog was being towed by Tratnik and got help from Sivakov until 50k.

 

[VO2 Max]

It's happened a hundred times before - Pogacar goes early, and it's game over. And people have complained about the bad chasing in just as many cases. They just won't accept that there is something more important than tactics and cooperation, and that's pushing MANY more watts than all the others.

It has to be both these things. For any move like to work it needs the attacker to be super strong and for the others to make mistakes. Pog had the ability to ask the others a really big question and Belgium, and Evenepoel in particular, fluffed their response. Remco can say what he likes afterwards but he was visibly panicking for 20 or 30km after Tadej got away.

 

[scribers]

MVP made the race the way it was with his presence. By heading up the road alone pogi left those behind to deal with mvp rather than himself. There are only a few ways to drop mvp on a course like this given mvps condition. And you don’t want to drag him to the line either from leading postion or from the chase

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Remco reminds me of Europa Universalis game player. As one of the majors, when up against the Vinge juggernaut (the military superpower of Prussia in the game), he allies himself with the unstoppable boss of the game, 18th century Ottoman Pog. But when the boss is threatening his interest, he leans himself towards another great power, van der Poel, maybe the Napoleonic France of the game. In process, he - the great emperor of Holy Roman Empire himself - throws tantrum and casus belli at will upon all the minnows around.

I don't dislike the guy, one hell of a bike rider that behave like an eternal kid, it's fine with me as far as entertainment goes.

until suddenly the surprise Ryukyu empire overthrows all

 

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Hoe Jan Tratnik op het WK wist dat Tadej Pogacar op komst was en bidons een sleutelrol speelden

Interview Was de ‘achterlijke aanval’ – zoals Tadej Pogačar het zelf noemde – op het WK afgelopen zondag nu wel zo achterlijk? Was het echt instinct, of toch een plan uit het bakje van de Slovenen? Want was het niet te toevallig dat Jan Tratnik wist dat zijn kopman eraan kwam? En was het niet […]

www.wielerflits.nl

Tratnik getting tips from race moto.. blatant moto doping if you ask me..

 

[scribers]

Hoe Jan Tratnik op het WK wist dat Tadej Pogacar op komst was en bidons een sleutelrol speelden

Interview Was de ‘achterlijke aanval’ – zoals Tadej Pogačar het zelf noemde – op het WK afgelopen zondag nu wel zo achterlijk? Was het echt instinct, of toch een plan uit het bakje van de Slovenen? Want was het niet te toevallig dat Jan Tratnik wist dat zijn kopman eraan kwam? En was het niet […]

www.wielerflits.nl

Tratnik getting tips from race moto.. blatant moto doping if you ask me..

That’s cool. I was wondering how he knew to drop back and just assumed the chalk board must have showed it somehow