Would you like to see a return of the 100 K TTT at Worlds and the Olympics?

[Boehmand]

I've been wondering if I am the only one missing the 100 K 4 rider TTTs we used to have at championships in the old days.

It's arguably the hardest single day competition in cycling, and seeing the best 4 TT riders from each country go head to head, over an almost 2 hour grueling effort, would be very exiting to me.

Imagine teams like:
Evenepoel, Van Aert, Lampaert, Van Wilder
Vingegaard, Bjerg, Asgreen, Pedersen
Roglic, Pogacar, Mohoric, Tratnik
Thomas, Tarling, Hart, Yates
Etc.

I realise there are logistical issues, as in doing both the TTT and TT (or RR), but I believe those can be worked around through good planning.

What do you think about the return of the competition?

 

[houtdffan]

I'd rather see long ITTs and log TTTs return to the GTs

 

[rallybanana]

Imagine teams like:
Evenepoel, Van Aert, Lampaert, Van Wilder
Vingegaard, Bjerg, Asgreen, Pedersen
Roglic, Pogacar, Mohoric, Tratnik
Thomas, Tarling, Hart, Yates
Etc.

It's a pity it was only for amateur teams back in the day. A 1986 French squad of Hinault, Mottet, Fignon, Bernard, and Marie. Who would you leave out?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Why not. From time to time and on different terrains.

 

[yaco]

Its not going to happen at the Olympics with the cap on total number of participants.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Stupid Mickey mouse idea, waste of time. Nobody want to watch this, no rider want to do this, they want to race.

 

[scribers]

I don’t care for it in GTs either. Strange variable that can tilt the overall too much

 

[rallybanana]

Stupid Mickey mouse idea, waste of time. Nobody want to watch this, no rider want to do this, they want to race.

Are you saying a time trial is not a race?

 

[Põhja Konn]

Gruelling , but beautiful discipline, I would love to see this being brought back to Olympics and Wolrds. But can't see it happening unfortunately. I generally like TT-ing as a discipline, both individual and team version, but the latter normally shouldn't be included in shorter stage races, at least its traditional version. The way they'll take times on next Paris-Nice one suits much better for stage races and shorter ones specially.

 

[Sciatic]

Moot point since it will never happen, as cycling and Olympics continue to move toward shorter and more Instagram-ready events.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Are you saying a time trial is not a race?

Of course a time trial is not a race. Not only would a 100km TTT be unbroadcastable, there maybe like, what, 6 nations max that would bother entering the competition?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

National amateur squads could do this as a goal: nowadays it is asking season-long rivals to work together, so it will be totally without training, so it is just a numbers game with the potential of errors.

This is not the pursuit of excellence: it is the excellent hoping they don't make a hames of something they haven't practised: that is not what Olympic medals should be about.

 

[hrotha]

Of course a time trial is not a race. Not only would a 100km TTT be unbroadcastable, there maybe like, what, 6 nations max that would bother entering the competition?

"Race is when on the telly"

 

[Netserk]

Replace the World and Olympic ITT with the TTT.

 

[KZD]

Replace the World and Olympic ITT with the TTT.

This sounds like a terrible idea. I want to know who is the strongest rider not the strongest team.

 

[ManicJack]

Of course a time trial is not a race.

What is a TT, if not a race? It may not be your preferred discipline but to state that it isn't a race is nonsense.

 

[Cookster15]

Not the worlds or Olympics but certainly grand tours.

A long TTT, but not necessarily 100km. Also, only if in the first week. It worked well in the 1993 Tour de France (stage 4) which was 81Km.

 

[Netserk]

This sounds like a terrible idea. I want to know who is the strongest rider not the strongest team.

Is the most aero rider the "strongest"? Does a better bike and more aero helmet make you "stronger"?

Put them in a lab if you want to measure their strength. I want a race, so I'm concerned with who the fastest are.

 

[KZD]

Is the most aero rider the "strongest"? Does a better bike and more aero helmet make you "stronger"?

Put them in a lab if you want to measure their strength. I want a race, so I'm concerned with who the fastest are.

Well, apparently you are concerned with who is the fastest team instead of the fastest rider, may I ask why?

Also by strongest, I meant fastest because a 80 kilo pro should be able to produce more absolute power (watts) than a 65 kilo pro but the 65 kilo pro should be more aero so he could actually be faster. Plus, having a 'better bike and a more aero helmet' will also help in a TTT not just in an ITT so I fail to see the relevance of bring those to the conversation.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I am at the exact opposite of Cookster's stance.

The TTT has no place in stage racing and is only acceptable in one of the following circumstances:

1) on a velodrome
2) over 100km in teams of 4 at the Worlds and Olympics
3) in standalone events like the old Eindhoven TTT
4) in cities with a statue of Lenin in their central square.

 

[Izzyeviel]

only in grand tours.

 

[StryderHells]

Well, apparently you are concerned with who is the fastest team instead of the fastest rider, may I ask why?

Also by strongest, I meant fastest because a 80 kilo pro should be able to produce more absolute power (watts) than a 65 kilo pro but the 65 kilo pro should be more aero so he could actually be faster. Plus, having a 'better bike and a more aero helmet' will also help in a TTT not just in an ITT so I fail to see the relevance of bring those to the conversation.

Well cycling is a team sport so why not see who’s the fastest team? Not in every race but nothing wrong with it a couple times a year.

 

[houtdffan]

Not the worlds or Olympics but certainly grand tours.

A long TTT, but not necessarily 100km. Also, only if in the first week. It worked well in the 1993 Tour de France (stage 4) which was 81Km.

yep. As much as I LOVE the very long ITT (a proper ITT is 60-70km in length), a very long TTT is around 80km is also an integral part of a GT. Want to bring a team full of mountain goats? Fine! You can lose 6 minutes in the TTT

 

[rallybanana]

4) in cities with a statue of Lenin in their central square.

What about McCartney?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

yep. As much as I LOVE the very long ITT (a proper ITT is 60-70km in length), a very long TTT is around 80km is also an integral part of a GT. Want to bring a team full of mountain goats? Fine! You can lose 6 minutes in the TTT

Cool yea, the 2009 Tour was an awesome race, thank God they brought back the TTT.