Would you pay subscription for the "old" CN

[Anonymous]

Would you pay a subscription, maybe not for the old CN but for the new version with flash removed and ads removed...

If it makes my life easier.. i would..

 

[jackson]

Maybe you could have added a fourth option such as "No, I will wait and see how the new site works out. Perhaps I'll contribute ideas and constructive criticism in order to build a site I can enjoy and the site operators can still offer for free. A bit of patience and far less whining and crying."

Maybe something like that.......

 

[JOCKEYWILSON]

i don't mind the ads its the re-organisation that i find irksome.

come on guys you've wrecked it

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe you could have added a fourth option such as "No, I will wait and see how the new site works out. Perhaps I'll contribute ideas and constructive criticism in order to build a site I can enjoy and the site operators can still offer for free. A bit of patience and far less whining and crying."

Maybe something like that.......

i thought about no, im just gonna put up with it

but you cant edit polls once youve done them

 

[michaeld05]

i dont understand why they changed it, what was wrong eith the old site, it was great

 

[slcbiker]

What might actually get action is if we forwarded the results of this poll to a few of the bigger advertisers on the site.

In point of fact, I'd even pay a small fee and put up with some advertising, for what the old site was.

 

[manolo]

2 Suggestions

These are the things I liked most about CN:

ISSUES:

1. Live Coverage. Like a ton of people here I used to love reading through the Live Coverage without knowing who had won the Stage. It was unique to CN. Will it come back?

2. The Stage Tables. I loved having the maps, profiles, Live Coverage and Results all available on one easy table. There were also the links to the Previous Year Results.

SOLUTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS

http://www.steephill.tv/tour-de-suisse/ has a separate page for each stage race (like you used to). You can visit that page and see information on that race only.

If you set up a Race Summary page, which would have just the table (as in http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2009/jun09/dauphinelibere09/?id=stages) but set up for the most current races, readers could bookmark that page, go to that page every day and just select Live Coverage and avoid the spoilers.

On the other hand, you could set up a page (or a new tab) with just the Live Coverage links and people could bookmark that page and therefore avoid the spoilers. You could offer the links to Live Coverage there, calling them, for example, http://www.cyclingnews.com/live or http://www.cyclingnews.com/livecoverage.

QUESTION
The deal is, is Live Coverage gone forever? If it isn't, you can make them all available on one single tab or page. Is Live Coverage back, will it be back or is it gone forever?

Please look into doing this. It would save CN for me. It would be easy access and we could avoid the spoilers and have the convenience we liked before. Thanks!

 

[manolo]

On the other hand,

Just to get it off my chest... I feel sad. For the last three days, instead of going to your main page, I've been coming to the forum to see these discussions. I've been getting my cycling fix and results from http://www.cyclingfans.com/, http://www.steephill.tv/, http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/cycling/, and http://www.grahamwatson.com/, in that order. Fantastic sites.

What I used to like about CN is not substitutable, but the pictures are prettier and the content just as good. Now this is the kicker: I even visited VeloNews after more than a year's absence and I felt ok with it! I didn't realize I was so attached to CN as it was. I literally feel a part of my life has been ruined.

... the creaking look was not an attractive proposition to advertisers...

There's an honest bit of writing.

The old site is gone. Here's why (above). Long live the new site (what else can I say? Hope you fail?). Here's what I would hope you would post here (or something like this...) for those of us who feel betrayed, ignored, trampled:

"We upset your cart. We destroyed what many of you thought was a beautiful site. We took away something you loved and liked for its simplicity. We didn't realize people loved it so much or that it meant so much to them. We screwed it up. It was a very clumsy maneuver and a very clumsy rollout. We never expected such a backlash and apologize to everyone that was flustered, indignated and felt at a loss when we made the changes we made, especially by implementing it without getting your feedback first by setting up a Beta site. We realize we "screwed up" many people's favorite cycling site, completely and forever obliterating a beautiful web experience which will never come back.

Please understand us. We're trying to move forward and look modern and be able to attract advertising dollars, make money and provide jobs to the many people that work here while providing meaningul content to our readers. But we screwed up with many of you. We apologize. Please give us another chance."

Maybe it's said elsewwhere (somebody please tell me what post and its number) by the editors, but it's been such a painful heart-wrenchig experience, such a personal loss to so many of us, that, honestly, it's like your girlfriend or wife deciding to take on a completely different look, personality and attitude just because she wanted a change and then surprising you with the changes overnight. It's been shocking, in poor form and poorly handled from a PR point of view.

Of course, the site will go on. But please don't ignore the hearts you've broken, the unfairness of surprising your faithful readers with things they not only did not expect, but truly don't care for and just spew out the corporate line! Acknowledge your readership's sense of betrayal. Give us one last hurrah! Why not set a date, maybe for the Tour de France or the last few days of the Tour de Suisse and give us a 'goodbye tour'? Set up the old site one more time for just one day. Or follow the suggestion I just detailed above.

Ah, well, enough for today! But again, since I can get the race profiles elsewhere, and I haven't seen any good live tickers, are you doing Live Coverage? If you are, where the hell is it?... It may be the only reason I might get back on your site. Thanks for reading and for posting responses on these boards.

 

[Emory Ball]

This poll is flawed in that the answer most people are choosing is a non realistic one, the fee you would have to pay to keep the old site running would be so large that no one would pay it, you have to have ads - no way around it. You have to keep 7-8 people employed full time as well as contributors and travel and overhead expenses.