Itzulia Basque Country 2024, April 1-6

[Carols]

Lol, Froome didn't win a single one day race in 2014. Nor did Contador. Not even a podium.

Contador took stages in Algarve finishing 2nd over all, won T-A including stages and so forth, What are you talking about?

 

[Gratemans]

His lack of insight stands on its own.

Haha, very elegantly put

 

[Tim Cahill]

Finishing bottles are usually like pre-workout with some painkillers and a lot of sugar I believe. They'd put the tramadol in there usually but can't since it was banned in competition, not sure what substitute they are using nowadays but they always figure something legal out.

Intaking caffeine in that way is incredibly effective, it works, I take it sometimes for the gym, never if I'm doing it in the evening though otherwise I'd be led awake shaking like a ****ing dog at 3am.

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[LesDiablesRouges]

Pray tell what he is "consulting" on. Social media management? To me, "consultant" is a euphemism for "on the dole".

Strategic consulting. I understand the reticence with consultants but he doesn't work for McKinsey.

 

[Lequack]

The medical toll is heavy for Belgian Steff Cras (TotalEnergies) with two punctured lungs, two broken ribs and pain in his vertebrae (via @ngeorgereau ). Also involved in the fall in the Basque Country, Natnael Tesfatsion (Lidl-Trek) has nothing broken. #Itzulia2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775955210474500593

View: https://twitter.com/LeGruppetto/status/1775955210474500593

It seems also a fractured vertebrae for Crass unfortunately, same as Jay Vine.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775969372739154308

View: https://twitter.com/TeamTotalEnrg/status/1775969372739154308

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Hmmm...
All of a sudden a bad feeling rolling over me speaking huge responsibility resting on my shoulders this season.
Races I've watched so far this year seems to go well without crashing.
The ones I don't get to see - people rush nose down for a good word.

Now again I've been away from watching for ~48 hours.
This is very dangerous for the riders.

At present I'm 27 pages behind in this thread and all I read about is crash, crash and crash again.

One thing is for certain - I don't think I have to tell the riders that I won't see much cycling for the next 1½ months. Only the bravest riders dare to appear at the starting lines.

 

[RedheadDane]

Hmmm...
All of a sudden a bad feeling of huge responsibility resting on my shoulders this season.
Races I've watched so far seems to go well without crashing.
The ones I don't get to see - people rush nose down for a good word.

Now again I've been away from watching for ~48 hours.
This is very dangerous for the riders.

At present I'm 27 pages behind in this thread and all I read about is crash, crash and crash again.

One thing is certain - I don't think I have to tell the riders that I won't see much cycling for the next 1½ months. Only the bravest riders dare to appear at the starting lines.

So, we went from "Gigs watching = race is boring" to "Zoetemelt-fan not watching = race is dangerous"?

 

[Volderke]

Hmmm...
All of a sudden a bad feeling rolling over me speaking huge responsibility resting on my shoulders this season.
Races I've watched so far this year seems to go well without crashing.
The ones I don't get to see - people rush nose down for a good word.

Now again I've been away from watching for ~48 hours.
This is very dangerous for the riders.

At present I'm 27 pages behind in this thread and all I read about is crash, crash and crash again.

One thing is for certain - I don't think I have to tell the riders that I won't see much cycling for the next 1½ months. Only the bravest riders dare to appear at the starting lines.

please watch Paris-Roubaix between 110K and 90K from the finish (including the chicane)!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So, we went from "Gigs watching = race is boring" to "Zoetemelt-fan not watching = race is dangerous"?

Thank god he's a fan of Zoetemelk then.

 

[RedheadDane]

please watch Paris-Roubaix between 110K and 90K from the finish (including the chicane)!

I think he should just watch every race!
I think we should just call his boss and tell said boss that he needs to have a lot of time off so he can watch bike races. People's safety depends on it!

 

[Izzyeviel]

Due to a crash at aproximately 36 kilometers from the finish, the race was neutralised. The race organisers decided to let the six breakaway riders continue to race and fight for the stage win. The rest of the peloton made their way to the finish neutralised behind the race director's car. Times did not count towards the GC, remaining KOM and intermediate sprints were cancelled, and no points or bonification seconds were awarded at the finish. Therefore, no PCS points are awarded beyond sixth place.

I've just found out about this. This sounds absurd to me. Was the crash really that bad?

 

[Extinction]

Just bad for the sport. The organization should have warned the teams, who should have averted their riders of the peril ahead. All that technology to no avail.

 

[noob]

In fairness Remco and Jonas may make the Tour but I cant imagine they will be at their best shape

And with a Giro in his legs Pog wont be at his best

This could be the best opportunity for Roglic to win a Tour before he finishes

This point is really a point :O I had not considered this!

 

[sam6]

Is Roglic definitely out of the race? I know that he DNF today but if the race was neutralised does he need to finish to start tomorrow? And if he is not seriously injured could he start tomorrow?

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

please watch Paris-Roubaix between 110K and 90K from the finish (including the chicane)!

Urgh. Promised myself not to watch that non-P-R chicane part - but was due to dull soulless moments.
Now I promise to watch that part too - as my original plan was to watch entire race
(now have to be via mobile data - the craftsmen's first day in my house and my internet was cut off with no prospect of getting it fixed for the first 2-3 weeks due to construction work, part of a reason I'll not watch much cycling for upcoming future)

 

[noob]

I don't want to brag, but I know more about racing / race analysis / data management and have race pedigree myself, compared to guys like Benji. At best I read / listen to them but the only thing I 'learn' are that their analysis sometimes reaches the same conclusions as I already made, and the details that people rave about in Patrick's race videos are things I have all seen / noticed live.

Nevertheless, Patrick's race videos are really good / to the point / ... and I am always happy to watch those, especially when I haven't seen the race myself.

Patrick himself has said one of the reasons he's hired by teams is that he watches every race. (Few does since they don't have time for that.)

 

[Landeirovic]

Is Roglic definitely out of the race? I know that he DNF today but if the race was neutralised does he need to finish to start tomorrow? And if he is not seriously injured could he start tomorrow?

DNF=DNF

 

[Gargamel35]

Tony Martin aka Panzerwagen from the retirement about Roglič:

"In fact, Roglic's training is the thing Martin believes sets him apart from all others. "I have never seen another athlete or teammate train so hard and with such determination. When he does his intervals on the mountain during the altitude training camp, it's unbelievable," Martin recalls, although as he notes that's not without sacrifice. "He pushes himself to the limit and is extremely hard on himself - and also on his family. Because he invests a lot of time in training camps between races and is only at home a little. This is not always easy in private life."

In contrast to his competition and training mentality, he is relaxed in private or at the dinner table after the race, drinks a beer in the evening and is very grateful and appreciative of his teammates for their efforts," Martin concludes. "At the end of the season there were also gifts for the helpers provided throughout the year. In that respect, he is really a great captain and I was happy to sacrifice myself for him."

Source: https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...es-the-immense-determination-of-primoz-roglic

He's a human among aliens.

Is Roglic definitely out of the race? I know that he DNF today but if the race was neutralised does he need to finish to start tomorrow? And if he is not seriously injured could he start tomorrow?

I hope he's out. It was enough. He's goal is TdF and he needs to get there in one piece.

 

[noob]

2 tablespoons of Nescafe Gold and Alaphilippe isn't hectic anymore?

OMG the comments today is killing a noob I love tha weasle

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I've just found out about this. This sounds absurd to me. Was the crash really that bad?

No, not really, compared to the race continuing on, say, stage 3 of the 2011 Giro.

But the fact of the matter was, the bunch was not up for racing, the organisers arranged for them to restart once everything was safe again, but had they done that the riders would just have done a go-slow and a self-policed neutralisation, so the organisers - as they always do - just said, sod it, let's give the riders what they want because it's better they skip a few kilometres of racing today and don't withdraw en masse. What they'd gain from restarting the race was not worth the hassle it would have caused in the long run.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Holy moses. This is even worse than I thought.
Glancing this thread was on update for previous days and crashes (after 48 hours of house project preparations, heavy work load, night shift calls and near zero sleep) - and just in this moment I'm on par with latest news of today.
Horrible
Just hope my previous reasoning regarding my bike race watcing vs. crashes will be put to shame. At present seems pretty impossible for me to have opportunities to watch more cycling. Now even Sunday looks difficult to me.

What a terrible day for cycling

 

[noob]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775934756405887401

View: https://twitter.com/BenjiNaesen/status/1775934756405887401


I know you all hate Benji but this was interesting :O

 

[Danskebjerge]

Contador took stages in Algarve finishing 2nd over all, won T-A including stages and so forth, What are you talking about?

You do know what a one-day-race is? It’s the kind of race that Pogacar has won loads of. Van Aert, Evenepoel and van der Poel, too.

 

[noob]

It is, but at the same time, anybody in the péloton listen to the guys with local knowledge, like Mikel Bizkarra and Pello Bilbao?

I already loved on Bilbao in this thread for what he said. I don't know about Benji

It's just it was interesting if Jonas had warned about that curve beforehand yet he went that fast into it :O

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

I've just found out about this. This sounds absurd to me. Was the crash really that bad?

Yes, it was lucky that no one was hurt more seriously. Vingegaard was literally lying on side not moving for 10+ minutes and Jay Vine was lying in a ditch for a long time as well and Remco nearly struck a tree with his head.

I still don't know how they all missed the large rock on the side of the road.