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Lui98 said:
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I' m happy to see him at the start of the Giro since he is basically the only rider that could gain a significant amount of UCI points for Astana.
Hopefully he will give us some fine racing, as is tradition for kazakhs legends.
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I actually think they have a decent squad for the Giro. Velasco and Scaroni are good stage hunters, Fortunato has also been riding decently this year. Their sprinting contingent is rather lacklustre, though.
 
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I didn't see the race, but what exactly did he do on Prati di Tivo? Looking at just the results, i'm not seeing some earthshattering indication that he's going to podium the Giro. He beat Ulissi by 2 seconds, and a recovering Yates, who still couldn't follow some 20 guys in Romandie, also lost 2 seconds. Guys like Voisard, Sivakov who also couldn't follow in Romandie, and Bennett within half a minute. What context am i missing?
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
I didn't see the race, but what exactly did he do on Prati di Tivo? Looking at just the results, i'm not seeing some earthshattering indication that he's going to podium the Giro. He beat Ulissi by 2 seconds, and a recovering Yates, who still couldn't follow some 20 guys in Romandie, also lost 2 seconds. Guys like Voisard, Sivakov who also couldn't follow in Romandie, and Bennett within half a minute. What context am i missing?
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
I didn't see the race, but what exactly did he do on Prati di Tivo? Looking at just the results, i'm not seeing some earthshattering indication that he's going to podium the Giro. He beat Ulissi by 2 seconds, and a recovering Yates, who still couldn't follow some 20 guys in Romandie, also lost 2 seconds. Guys like Voisard, Sivakov who also couldn't follow in Romandie, and Bennett within half a minute. What context am i missing?
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He climbed faster than Pogačar' s time of 2021 on Prati di Tivo. Of course Logic would make me say that the peloton has got faster over these years, but the heart says that we will witness Lutsenko in Vinokourov like form

https://twitter.com/x/status/1778420796592906278
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Netserk said:
Why not?

I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that at his best he is close to the level of Ben O'Connor, like on Prati di Tivo.
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Lutsenko looks like a world beater about 25% of the time and distinctly ordinary the rest. He's lethal on midmountain, rolling stages. But I don't think he can climb at the highest level. He's too heavy.

One thing for sure: when he retires, Astana folds. I don't care how good baby Vino is.
 
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markene2 said:
Would love to see him top 5, but i fear he cant sustian the peak as he was going to ride the tdf in the first place.

But would love for him to suprise me, a good sign was that he actually got top 10 in LBL. He usually is nowhere in the monuments
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It also comes down to why he DNF Romandie, since half the team got sick/left the race too. Did they just want to have him rest for the Giro, was he just tired after LBL, or did he actually get sick?
 
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If Lutsenko has last year's shape, when he not only won in Sicily but was also strong at the Amstel Gold Race, then a podium spot at the 2024 Giro d'Italia sounds possible given the route and field. His withdrawal from the Tour de Romandie however puts a huge question mark behind his current shape.

Astana wouldn't have fielded him for the 2024 Giro d'Italia if they didn't see the chance for Lutsenko to either win some hilly stages or get a top 5 / top 3 on the final general classification. This is probably among the best line-ups Astana can field for a Grand Tour these days.

So let's wait and see whether we see him constantly on the attack or hanging on in the mountains the next weeks. I'm looking forward to it!
 
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