Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard: The Wizard of Visma

[ppanther92]

People unironically arguing an injury that sent a rider to ICU isnt worse than hand injury that got surgery that same day and where the rider was out of hospital 24h later

Yes, thats indeed stupid. Initially communication was its only the ribs (and at that point it looked comparable/good) but pneumothorax + ICU made it pretty clear that this was way more serious than a wrist fracture.

 

[Oldermanish]

Maxtin visited Vingegaard after his collarbone operation That is hilarious
According to Maxtin, Vingegaard did not seem optimistic. That is ofc 3 weeks ago, but still.

Matxin y el doblete Giro-Tour de Pogacar: “Sólo él puede hacerlo”

El mánager general del equipo UAE habla con AS sobre la preparación de Pogacar para asaltar el doblete de Giro y Tour.

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Not being able to breathe properly is nothing to mess with. Hopefully the time off isn't too much longer or his necessary recovery time will reflect that. At least it's not a bio-mechanical issue from what little news we get.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

At Visma-Lease a Bike, it is uncertain whether defending champion Jonas Vingegaard will be ready for the Tour and if so at what percentage of his capabilities. The Dane is not giving up yet, but for now it seems more likely that Vingegaard skips the Tour than starts.

Van Aert mikt op comeback eind mei in Noorwegen

De Giro moet hij missen, wegens niet hersteld van de reeks breuken na zijn val in Dwars door Vlaanderen. Toch zal Wout van Aert (29) al koersen in mei. De Ronde van Noorwegen (23/5 - 26/5) is zijn vooropgesteld doel voor een comeback.

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If Vingegaard misses the Tour then it is likely that WvA will start and get a free role.

 

[dazaau]

Van Aert mikt op comeback eind mei in Noorwegen

De Giro moet hij missen, wegens niet hersteld van de reeks breuken na zijn val in Dwars door Vlaanderen. Toch zal Wout van Aert (29) al koersen in mei. De Ronde van Noorwegen (23/5 - 26/5) is zijn vooropgesteld doel voor een comeback.

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If Vingegaard misses the Tour then it is likely that WvA will start and get a free role.

Chaos Would be fun to see.

However the GC would be poorer for it. Though depending how Pog pulls up from the giro it could be fairly open.

 

[KZD]

Van Aert mikt op comeback eind mei in Noorwegen

De Giro moet hij missen, wegens niet hersteld van de reeks breuken na zijn val in Dwars door Vlaanderen. Toch zal Wout van Aert (29) al koersen in mei. De Ronde van Noorwegen (23/5 - 26/5) is zijn vooropgesteld doel voor een comeback.

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If Vingegaard misses the Tour then it is likely that WvA will start and get a free role.

Obviously if Vingegaard doesn't recover in time for the Tour then Van Aert has to ride, Visma can't afford to get have their two star riders skipping the most important race in the calendar.

From a Van Aert perspective this would actually be a great chance to get an almost perfect preparation for the Olympics, as long as he doesn't try to win half the stages or goes for green jersey.

 

[Froome]

Merijn Zeeman: “Jonas Vingegaard kan Tour de France nog altijd halen”

Er is bij Visma | Lease a Bike nog altijd vertrouwen dat Jonas Vingegaard deze zomer in goeden doen de Tour de France kan rijden. Dat heeft Merijn Zeeman aan WielerFlits bevestigd. De Deen vertrekt dit weekend echter niet mee op het trainingskamp van de Tour-ploeg in Sierra-Nevada en zal op 2...

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He can still go to the Tour, it’s not ruled out.

 

[Netserk]

Merijn Zeeman: “Jonas Vingegaard kan Tour de France nog altijd halen”

Er is bij Visma | Lease a Bike nog altijd vertrouwen dat Jonas Vingegaard deze zomer in goeden doen de Tour de France kan rijden. Dat heeft Merijn Zeeman aan WielerFlits bevestigd. De Deen vertrekt dit weekend echter niet mee op het trainingskamp van de Tour-ploeg in Sierra-Nevada en zal op 2...

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He can still go to the Tour, it’s not ruled out.

Dauphiné ruled out, no surprise.

Other than that, the news are "no news".

 

[Froome]

Dauphiné ruled out, no surprise.

Other than that, the news are "no news".

The news are that they yet didn't ruled out until today, and the chance of happening was high.

Zeerman sounded optimistic.

 

[Red Rick]

Still hasnt ridden his bike.

The implication is basically theyre considering winging the Tour completely, with the hopium being based on that in 2021 he was *** in the Dauphine until he came good on the last day

Were more than a month after the crash, the detraining should be serious if were talking about the Tour

 

[Froome]

Still hasnt ridden his bike.

The implication is basically theyre considering winging the Tour completely, with the hopium being based on that in 2021 he was *** in the Dauphine until he came good on the last day

Were more than a month after the crash, the detraining should be serious if were talking about the Tour

If he still hasn't ridden his bike, they would already ruled him out for the Tour.

Certainly he is already training in the turbo trainer.

 

[CyclistAbi]

In my opinion Remco still has a chance making it to the Tour in reasonable form, likely not at 100%, for Jonas unfortunately i just don't see it. There is just not enough time involved for body to heal properly and after to start training and to get some good form.

 

[Rackham]

IMO it's sort of depressing for the sport to see Visma (in this instance Zeeman) putting pressure on his star rider to heal in time for the TdF.

Chris Horner uploaded a video a few weeks ago in which he basically said the stars of pro cycling are 'encouraged' to heal faster than the rest. It's about money & results. That Zeeman interview feeds right into that same dynamic in which Vingegaard is basically being monitored daily with one goal, i.e. making the TdF in good enough shape to compete for the win.

Maybe it's just me but I think the only focus they should have is building him back properly, step by step, without the pressure of being in top shape in 8 weeks time.

 

[Netserk]

IMO it's sort of depressing for the sport to see Visma (in this instance Zeeman) putting pressure on his star rider to heal in time for the TdF.

Chris Horner uploaded a video a few weeks ago in which he basically said the stars of pro cycling are 'encouraged' to heal faster than the rest. It's about money & results. That Zeeman interview feeds right into that same dynamic in which Vingegaard is basically being monitored daily with one goal, i.e. making the TdF in good enough shape to compete for the win.

Maybe it's just me but I think the only focus they should have is building him back properly, step by step, without the pressure of being in top shape in 8 weeks time.

He's a pro, of course he should be pressured to perform.

 

[Rackham]

He's a pro, of course he should be pressured to perform.

I disagree.

He's a pro who had a bad accident. The pressure should be to return to a top level, not to return within 8 weeks to a top level.

There's a big difference. But the TdF is the TdF & in pro cycling it takes precedence over everything. It's all the sponsors care about.

 

[FanBoi]

Sander Kleikers reveals more than the Zeeman:

- I can't say how far he is from being back on the bike. We will report when there is new information to share with you. I can say that he is doing well and that he is recovering very well. That's why the Tour de France is a possibility, even though many said it wasn't. ​

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- There have been no setbacks since he left the hospital in Spain. Everything is going according to plan. We hope to make plans soon, but as I said, the Tour de France is eight weeks away, so will give Jonas and the team some time to make the best decision for him and his ambitions. ​

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Godt Vingegaard-nyt: - Håber snart at lave planer

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[Froome]

Sander Kleikers reveals more than the Zeeman:

- I can't say how far he is from being back on the bike. We will report when there is new information to share with you. I can say that he is doing well and that he is recovering very well. That's why the Tour de France is a possibility, even though many said it wasn't. ​

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- There have been no setbacks since he left the hospital in Spain. Everything is going according to plan. We hope to make plans soon, but as I said, the Tour de France is eight weeks away, so will give Jonas and the team some time to make the best decision for him and his ambitions. ​

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Godt Vingegaard-nyt: - Håber snart at lave planer

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He will be at the Tour. They sound a lot optimistic.

 

[Froome]

Sander Kleikers reveals more than the Zeeman:

- I can't say how far he is from being back on the bike. We will report when there is new information to share with you. I can say that he is doing well and that he is recovering very well. That's why the Tour de France is a possibility, even though many said it wasn't. ​

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- There have been no setbacks since he left the hospital in Spain. Everything is going according to plan. We hope to make plans soon, but as I said, the Tour de France is eight weeks away, so will give Jonas and the team some time to make the best decision for him and his ambitions. ​

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Godt Vingegaard-nyt: - Håber snart at lave planer

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"Finally, Sander Kleikers is asked where the Dane is at the moment.

But this is where the communications manager intervenes.

- There are stories that he is in either Switzerland, France, Italy or Denmark, but it is not something we talk about because it is private, and Jonas wants it to be private, which we naturally respect."

LMAO.

 

[AmRacer]

"Finally, Sander Kleikers is asked where the Dane is at the moment.

But this is where the communications manager intervenes.

- There are stories that he is in either Switzerland, France, Italy or Denmark, but it is not something we talk about because it is private, and Jonas wants it to be private, which we naturally respect."

LMAO.

I'm sure WADA knows Jonas whereabouts. Athletes must say where they are at anytime.

 

[Froome]

I'm sure WADA knows Jonas whereabouts. Athletes must say where they are at anytime.

Probably he is in the Area 51.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

"Finally, Sander Kleikers is asked where the Dane is at the moment.

But this is where the communications manager intervenes.

- There are stories that he is in either Switzerland, France, Italy or Denmark, but it is not something we talk about because it is private, and Jonas wants it to be private, which we naturally respect."

LMAO.

He should just say he‘s in Mexico to avoid people bothering him. Works every time

 

[Netserk]

"Finally, Sander Kleikers is asked where the Dane is at the moment.

But this is where the communications manager intervenes.

- There are stories that he is in either Switzerland, France, Italy or Denmark, but it is not something we talk about because it is private, and Jonas wants it to be private, which we naturally respect."

LMAO.

He's in Okinawa.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hniuEXezlBI

 

[Mlarsen]

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[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785626317615943922

View: https://twitter.com/AHedensted/status/1785626317615943922

 

[Oldermanish]

Van Aert mikt op comeback eind mei in Noorwegen

De Giro moet hij missen, wegens niet hersteld van de reeks breuken na zijn val in Dwars door Vlaanderen. Toch zal Wout van Aert (29) al koersen in mei. De Ronde van Noorwegen (23/5 - 26/5) is zijn vooropgesteld doel voor een comeback.

www.hln.be

If Vingegaard misses the Tour then it is likely that WvA will start and get a free role.

A role to support Jorgenson first, himself second. He's still on the mend from his crash. Remember that?

 

[Oldermanish]

If he still hasn't ridden his bike, they would already ruled him out for the Tour.

Certainly he is already training in the turbo trainer.

Again, if breathing heavily affects his recovery he wouldn't be doing anything aside from low-stress mobility in rehab. Considering the gradual loss of both fitness and muscle tone, he may end up writing off serious competition for the entire year. He's a rare and expensive commodity and whether JV likes it or not; they can't force him to jeopardize his career. Both Jonas and JV no doubt have insurance for this possibility so it's not just about current value and money. We'd all love to see that injury resurrection but you can't force this sort of recovery.
Johan Musseuw used alot of means for his most dramatic, victorious return at Paris Roubaix relatively quickly after his leg injury. None of his prescriptions apply to Jonas' case and we may be looking into time frames like Remco endured. Hope not.