La Vuelta 2023* - the moral victor?

[Tim Cahill]

As with Arnaud Démare's controversial 2016 Milan-San Remo* victory, what matters most is not winning the race but winning the argument on the internet afterwards.

In light of this I believe Primoz Roglic is the strongest contender for moral victor. He peaked for this, the big record win, the others were allowed to attack, tactics never allowed him to show the ultra-mythical form that he had hidden away in the locker, Jonas attacked before he could because deep down they both wanted to win, Roglic was the only one honest enough to admit it, taking all the PR flak, it's just one big conspiracy I'm telling you. Vuelta mickey mouse race confirmed.

#JeSuisRogla #StopThePrimozEmbargo

 

[SafeBet]

I'd have to check it out and I won't because I'm tired but in the last three weeks Sivakov might have scored more UCI points that all Ineos riders combined bar Pippo.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'd have to check it out and I won't because I'm tired but in the last three weeks Sivakov might have scored more UCI points that all Ineos riders combined bar Pippo.

So,  he's the moral victor?

 

[theyoungest]

So,  he's the moral victor?

Yes. Pavel Sivakov is the moral victor of this Vuelta. I think we can all agree on that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

On this race the closes thing to moral victor is Sepp Kuss. Due to his past sacrifices. But as he is the victor i don't know if he should be a moral one too. Other riders are in my opinion too butthurt to even be considered at this edition.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Roglič is the moral victor to Roglič fans (apparently not, I see) and that‘s all that matters for him. He could start his own cult if he wanted to and we would lose multiple posters in the process. Also Evenepoel got to show us the best strategy to win from the breakaway (being overpowering) but he has to be a loser because he exposed us all to a lethal dosis of Jumbomania.

 

[RedheadDane]

I just checked. There were no Victors - moral or amoral - at this Vuelta.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I just checked. There were no Victors - moral or amoral - at this Vuelta.

No one has claimed there were.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Davide Cimolai - clinic enthusiasts.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Roglič is the moral victor to Roglič fans (apparently not, I see) and that‘s all that matters for him.

If one would say Rogla is a moral victor of this race, that would somehow imply one would like to see more of this. That would be immoral.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

There is no good answer to the moral victor question. If it's about who wins the argument on the internet afterwards, that's obviously Sepp Kuss because it was the internet arguments during the race that decided it in his favour.

Kuss won but it was demonstrably without being the best rider, which will sour things for many regardless of anything else and the fact the race was settled by a four day ceasefire is a miserable spectacle that can only be enjoyed by those who had campaigned for Kuss in those aforementioned internet arguments - and even then it's only enjoyed because of the feelgood moment of the actual win, not for the four days of nothingness preceding it. Roglič and Vingegaard didn't cover themselves with glory either, being too disloyal as teammates, and too weak to assert themselves as leaders. Nobody else was even in the same postcode as the Jumbo trio so they shouldn't be considered. Unipublic embarrassed themselves several times over.

 

[Netserk]

There is no good answer to the moral victor question.

Landa is always a good answer. - No matter the question.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Seeing as Groves is listed in the poll I'll just go with him - he showed massive talent and durability, even in the final stage he wasn't about to take it easy when challenged. Not much noise or fanfare on his part, but then I don't check riders' social media PR...

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Landa is always a good answer. - No matter the question.

Who started WW2? Landa

 

[will-10]

Please rename to "the asterisk thread", tia x

 

[Nick2413]

Roglic, he was the only one who wanted it to be a race and was open about it and we’ve also seen he’s incredibly graceful in handling defeat when he gets beat in a real race (see PDBF 2020). He would’ve been the first to congratulate Kuss in a proper victory.

 

[Unchained]

I must have missed the moral component part of the 3 week long competition. Nobody dedicated a race to anyone from Hawaii, Libya or Morocco, just for starters.
So thinking bike racers are thinking past the end of their noses, is a stretch. The moral mix up came mostly in the Jumbo bus where 3 teenage girl body pro cyclists fought over a red jersey and the slumber party had a surprise happy ending. The race winners didn't even give away the pesky stuffed animals at the awards ceremony..Moral shmoral

 

[Tim Cahill]

Please rename to "the asterisk thread", tia x

Yes I shall apply the asterisk, and inform the big wigs at Cyclingnews to update their style guide appropriately.

 

[Gigs_98]

I don't think an of the Jumbo guys was clearly strong enough to be the "moral victor" so I voted Remco for his breakaway heroics. But I mean, I really don't think he was the moral victor of this Vuelta.

 

[zlev11]

Roglič is the moral victor to Roglič fans (apparently not, I see) and that‘s all that matters for him. He could start his own cult if he wanted to and we would lose multiple posters in the process. Also Evenepoel got to show us the best strategy to win from the breakaway (being overpowering) but he has to be a loser because he exposed us all to a lethal dosis of Jumbomania.

you sure you're not talking about Remco fans?

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Who started WW2? Landa

Interestingly enough, Landa is isn't the answer here but Jose Jaoquin Rojas is.

 

[proffate]

Rui Costa

 

[RedheadDane]

Landa is always a good answer. - No matter the question.

I can think of a lot of questions where "Landa" wouldn't be a good answer.
"Who'll win the sprint?" is one of them.

 

[cellardoor]

#FreeRogla

 

[Cookster15]

I just checked. There were no Victors - moral or amoral - at this Vuelta.

No victors at all?? You didn’t check very hard or are being unnecessarily cryptic. The official victor is Sepp Kuss. The moral victor is whoever we prefer in the poll - I picked Kuss because he has worked hard for both Roglic and Vingegaard and it’s nice to see that hard work repaid.