Motor doping thread

[proffate]

Some pretty severe accusations there: care to substantiate any of them?

How is he going to substantiate them? Hack into the race director's email system?

Where there's smoke there's fire. I'm not saying he's right, but it's not exactly unfathomable that he's right. The Lakers clearly (objectively) get insane favoritism from the refs because they're one of the biggest markets. Why would that only occur in one sport?

 

[Nick2413]

Was the distance the motos kept definitely less for the 2 riders in question compared to other winners?

 

[Bolder]

Was the distance the motos kept definitely less for the 2 riders in question compared to other winners?

Motodoping?

 

[MartinGT]

If Spartacus had a motor WTF does Pog have?

 

[budegan]

In this week's episode of the motor doping podcast there's mention of a scandal waiting to happen based around a pro team's sponsor pulling out after learning they'd been using motors.

 

[pastronef]

In this week's episode of the motor doping podcast there's mention of a scandal waiting to happen based around a pro team's sponsor pulling out after learning they'd been using motors.

waiting to see if that's true

 

[zlev11]

In this week's episode of the motor doping podcast there's mention of a scandal waiting to happen based around a pro team's sponsor pulling out after learning they'd been using motors.

hmm this could be an interesting exercise. can anyone think of a sponsor that abruptly pulled out mid-season? i can think of one, let's see if anyone else gets it.

also, do you have a link to the podcast in question?

 

[MartinGT]

hmm this could be an interesting exercise. can anyone think of a sponsor that abruptly pulled out mid-season? i can think of one, let's see if anyone else gets it.

also, do you have a link to the podcast in question?

Does it say pull out mid-season?

Ghost in the Machine

Listen to Ghost in the Machine on Spotify. “I truly believe that motors were used to win bike races” - Greg LeMond, three-time winner of the Tour de France.In January 2016, 19-year-old Belgian cyclist Femke van den Driessche was caught with a collection of wires, motors and batteries buried deep...

open.spotify.com

 

[zlev11]

Does it say pull out mid-season?

thanks for the link. i'd have to listen to it, but even if not mid-season, it's still the only one I can really think of, in the last 10-12 years anyway. and it's not Jumbo, either, because i think it's pretty clear they pulled out because the company itself was having its own scandal.

 

[houtdffan]

In this week's episode of the motor doping podcast there's mention of a scandal waiting to happen based around a pro team's sponsor pulling out after learning they'd been using motors.

the old ROBBERbank? Tell me that wouldn't be true. The same team that employed Cow blood doper Rasmussen

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Does it say pull out mid-season?

Ghost in the Machine

Listen to Ghost in the Machine on Spotify. “I truly believe that motors were used to win bike races” - Greg LeMond, three-time winner of the Tour de France.In January 2016, 19-year-old Belgian cyclist Femke van den Driessche was caught with a collection of wires, motors and batteries buried deep...

open.spotify.com

Why is there a dedicated motor doping podcast and how do you fill the episodes if there‘s little to no information. I still don‘t believe the motor people because they keep bringing up guys like Froome whose power data in a generational context is awful.

 

[AmRacer]

That Giro-E race...

 

[MartinGT]

Why is there a dedicated motor doping podcast and how do you fill the episodes if there‘s little to no information. I still don‘t believe the motor people because they keep bringing up guys like Froome whose power data in a generational context is awful.

Listen to it and you will find out.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

That Giro-E race...

Yesterday I saw Cunego motordoping…

 

[frenchfry]

53 year old sponsor of an amateur team (who also rides for the team) suspected of motor cheating before the start of a stage rushes off in his car injuring a race organiser who was trying to question him. His family restaurant business is also a sponsor of Astana. There was no prize money (or very little) for the race, which is the highest amateur level. He had turned in some eye opening performances on 2 previous stages that led to questions and someone noticed a suspicious cable on his bike.

MSN

 

[Rob5091]

53 year old sponsor of an amateur team (who also rides for the team) suspected of motor cheating before the start of a stage rushes off in his car injuring a race organiser who was trying to question him. His family restaurant business is also a sponsor of Astana. There was no prize money (or very little) for the race, which is the highest amateur level. He had turned in some eye opening performances on 2 previous stages that led to questions and someone noticed a suspicious cable on his bike.

MSN

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...down-race-organiser-while-escaping-inspection

"We had suspicions about potential cheating," explained race director Frédéric Lenormand. "On Saturday, in the stage between Beauvais and Maignelay-Montigny, he caught a breakaway in an abnormally fast period of time. On Sunday, several people mentioned an unusual noise when he was riding."
But when Lenormand attempted to check the rider's bike, he could scarcely have believed what would happen next.

The rider "fled" towards his van, Le Parisien reported, despite efforts by Lenormand to "hold him back".

"I wanted to hold him back but he ran away," Lenormand says – and after catching up with the rider: “He drove his car at me and I went about 100 metres on his bonnet.

Original article (in French) at https://www.leparisien.fr/oise-60/u...eur-20-05-2024-44MBEHPSYRGJFM4NJV6HHSYPFE.php

 

[Ripper]

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/...down-race-organiser-while-escaping-inspection

Original article (in French) at https://www.leparisien.fr/oise-60/u...eur-20-05-2024-44MBEHPSYRGJFM4NJV6HHSYPFE.php

Sad

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

...if GCN is questioning if it is happening, you can assume that everyone is doing it.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

At Decathlon they are on e-bikes

 

[pastronef]

At Decathlon they are on e-bikes

Vendrame. former hilly stage Giro stage winner with Ag2r, twice second at Laigueglia, second at Giro mountain stage behind Chaves, wins at Tro Bro Leon, Occitanie.
played perfectly, he knew he'd be beaten with Narvaez. they almost caught him on the flat, then they played among themselves nd he went again

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Vendrame. former hilly stage Giro stage winner with Ag2r, twice second at Laigueglia, second at Giro mountain stage behind Chaves, wins at Tro Bro Leon, Occitanie.
played perfectly, he knew he'd be beaten with Narvaez. they almost caught him on the flat, then they played among themselves nd he went again

It's not even halfway through the season but Decathlon already has more than twice as many wins as the previous two years combined. There is something very fishy going on with that team...

 

[pastronef]

It's not even halfway through the season but Decathlon already has more than twice as many wins as the previous two years combined. There is something very fishy going on with that team...

call me when they beat Pog and VDP. check Cofidis, they are going backwards compared to last season. cycling is unpredictable. Decathlon are winning their races. Brabantse Pijl, Finisterre, Dunkerque, Alpes-Maritimes, Camembert, Loire, Morbihan, and finally doing good in the WT (O'Connor confirming his 4th in GC at the TDF with 4th at the Giro) and their form got them nice stage wins at Giro (Vendrame already did it) and Romandie/Itzulia.
have they stepped up finally? oh yes, oh yes. that's what they should do, instead of betting on GVA and the Naesens to win on cobbles.
very fishy ffs

 

[AmRacer]

It's not even halfway through the season but Decathlon already has more than twice as many wins as the previous two years combined. There is something very fishy going on with that team...

A couple of years ago, it was Bahrain Suspicious. Last year, TJV did something extraordinary. It's a thing that goes around in the peloton.

 

[pastronef]

A couple of years ago, it was Bahrain Suspicious. Last year, TJV did something extraordinary. It's a thing that goes around in the peloton.

Decathlon Ag2r are winning Giro stages (they did it before) and placing 4th in a GC (they did it before) and winning Finistere, Dunkerque, Loire, Brabantse, and some WT stages. yet people react like they were smashing grand tours and monuments.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

call me when they beat Pog and VDP. check Cofidis, they are going backwards compared to last season. cycling is unpredictable. Decathlon are winning their races. Brabantse Pijl, Finisterre, Dunkerque, Alpes-Maritimes, Camembert, Loire, Morbihan, and finally doing good in the WT (O'Connor confirming his 4th in GC at the TDF with 4th at the Giro) and their form got them nice stage wins at Giro (Vendrame already did it) and Romandie/Itzulia.
have they stepped up finally? oh yes, oh yes. that's what they should do, instead of betting on GVA and the Naesens to win on cobbles.
very fishy ffs

Gall will certainly lose time on the descents and ITT, but in the mountains he will be there with Pog and Vingegaard.

It's weird how a big money sponsor worth billions of euros selling budget bikes shows up at the team and suddenly the whole team starts flying.