Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Rob5091]

The G.O.A.T did not look so G.O.A.T. like on stage 1 - chasing down the likes of Conci & Caruso to try for the win. Expecting more G.O.A.T. like performance on stage 2, or people might start to wonder if the appearance fee was worth it!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Today he will race with anger. His pride is hurt. Just like Contador after Montevergine.

 

[snipeheem]

Today he will race with anger. His pride is hurt. Just like Contador after Montevergine.

Check his strava comment haha

 

[Peyroteo94]

Check his strava comment haha

“we broke the ice, now we start the game for real"

 

[Berniece]

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I didn’t see the post he made that got him banned, but I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary which couldn’t be addressed here

 

[Peyroteo94]

First win and maglia rosa! But one thing I am pretty sure, he doesn't seem to have his Tour's legs. He is taking the double very serious.

 

[kingjr]

Pogacar about 20 seconds slower than Pantani, roughly from the point where Pantani had his mechanical

 

[Didinho]

Step 1 done.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I think he should have taken a breather after coming back from the crash, keeping up the pace might have cost him a little.

 

[ppanther92]

First win and maglia rosa! But one thing I am pretty sure, he doesn't seem to have his Tour's legs. He is taking the double very serious.

Which makes sense. But at the same time, and to keep it in his own words, @mou seems to be a bit of a fraud with his claims about Pogi. All exactly in line with what he has done the past 3 years as well.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Which makes sense. But at the same time, and to keep it in his own words, @mou seems to be a bit of a fraud with his claims about Pogi. All exactly in line with what he has done the past 3 years as well.

Mou said Pog was going to be stronger at the Tour and Giro was warming up to it.

 

[ppanther92]

Mou said Pog was going to be stronger at the Tour and Giro was warming up to it.

Mou was saying the Giro will show the new Pogacar though.

 

[snipeheem]

Mou said Pog was going to be stronger at the Tour and Giro was warming up to it.

he also said 7,3w/kg for 15 min , 7w/kg for 20 at giro

 

[Peyroteo94]

Which makes sense. But at the same time, and to keep it in his own words, @mou seems to be a bit of a fraud with his claims about Pogi. All exactly in line with what he has done the past 3 years as well.

It is early to say. I don't think he peaked for the Giro so it is a expected performance. One thing is important to say, he put 26 seconds after a comeback in the last 10 km and this margin is enormous for this type of climb. Prati di Tivo will give us a clear picture IMHO.

 

[Salvarani]

Good and convincing win.

 

[ppanther92]

It is early to say. I don't think he peaked for the Giro so it is a expected performance. One thing is important to say, he put 26 seconds after a comeback in the last 10 km and this margin is enormous for this type of climb. Prati di Tivo will give us a clear picture IMHO.

I am not saying Pogacar is not great. Obviously not. But as you also said - everything this season feels “expected”.

 

[bNator]

I am not saying Pogacar is not great. Obviously not. But as you also said - everything this season feels “expected”.

Strade didn’t feel expected

 

[kn0s]

Could the plan have changed after the crash at itzulia? He seems a little undercooked compared to what I was expecting. I don't see him really soft-pedaling, too much spitting, laborer facial expressions. Maybe I'm underestimating the competition.

 

[kn0s]

Strade didn’t feel expected

Because they put the 30 extra km in? Other than that it was copy/past of last time he won.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I am not saying Pogacar is not great. Obviously not. But as you also said - everything this season feels “expected”.

Of course I didn't buy all the hype mou put in Pogacar. However, we tend to forget how incredible he has been this season. We are getting to the point where Pogi has disappointed when he doesn't crush his rivals by several minutes. What he did in strade bianche is incredible and can't be seen as "expected". Or even Vallter 2000, where he gained a minute and half in a fairly easy climb.
Today was a good performance but we need to wait for the Tour to assess his true level.

 

[ppanther92]

Strade didn’t feel expected

Not sure, he just went earlier but it looked equally dominant in 2022, no? Or at least not like on a whole new level.

 

[ppanther92]

Of course I didn't buy all the hype mou put in Pogacar. However, we tend to forget how incredible he has been this season. We are getting to the point where Pogi has disappointed when he doesn't crush his rivals by several minutes. What he did in strade bianche is incredible and can't be seen as "expected". Or even Vallter 2000, where he gained a minute and half in a fairly easy climb.
Today was a good performance but we need to wait for the Tour to assess his true level.

Fair, maybe I am indeed to “hard” on him since he just does awesome stuff over and over again. Just not sure if Pogacar’s gap to his rivals became that much larger (if at all).

 

[Valv.Piti]

With the flat wheel and the easy climb, this was probably the best he could have done. The other riders benefitted a decent amount of drafting, especially with Lipo hit the front.

 

[sam6]

Pogi didn't look at his best today. 27 seconds is not as much as I expected and he looked a lot stronger in Catalunya. Was surprising to see O'Connor following him too

 

[Salvarani]

Pogi didn't look at his best today. 27 seconds is not as much as I expected and he looked a lot stronger in Catalunya. Was surprising to see O'Connor following him too

sure