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Yea, and they ate gelato on the roads of the Giro, forgetting the Gavia stage, which would never take place today. They were chumps back...
Nov 25, 2025
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We are talking about the same thing. Where I deviate from your point of view has to do with credibility.
Nov 25, 2025
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Maybe when he retired there was no evidence to denounce Indurain. There was no hematocrit restriction, no EPO test. It could have also...
Nov 25, 2025
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I remember going down the Lemond rabbit hole years ago, there isn't a single piece of empirical or circumstantial evidence to link him...
Nov 25, 2025
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Although I haven't seen riders brought to the brink of collapse like I have in the past. Today they go harder and faster, but they are...
Nov 25, 2025
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Maybe because the climbs on stages back then were multiple, long and so were the stages. 80s cycling was about longe duree stamina and...
Nov 25, 2025
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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti
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Repeating I don't understand without explaining why, doesn't help your cause.
Nov 25, 2025
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You are not considering how the science of doping has changed the sport. Lemond's climbing times cannot be compared to today's, even...
Nov 25, 2025
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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti
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I think I do. Your real aim is to cast doubt on Lemond. You tacitly admit this by saying "Greg still provided 0 evidence to support his...
Nov 25, 2025
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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti
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Lemond was gone after winning the 90 Tour, he wasn't competative thereafter. His decline, apart from the lead poisoning, coincided with...
Nov 25, 2025
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Yours is a false objectivity. You took access to Bruyneel, implying Lemond was not credible, on lack of evidence. So you seem to think...
Nov 25, 2025
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Having a high VO2 max, doesn't automatically translate to performance. Plus it was an entirely different cycling then. Take the bikes...
Nov 25, 2025
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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti
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Certainly, but who is lying?
Nov 25, 2025
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So whose word do you trust, Lemond's or Bruyneel's?
Nov 25, 2025
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You don't get it, anything that comes out of Bruyneel's mouth regarding Lemond is hogwash. Bruyneel has no credibility when it comes to...
Nov 25, 2025
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