Who is this "everyone" that you are referring to? The only people that have supposedly come to terms with doping are those that have gotten caught. Unfortunately, you can count on one hand the number of non-caught (notice I did not say "clean") riders that have spoken out.
Wow - is it really that bad to have televised coverage of races? For all those that are *****ing about it - either turn down the sound or switch to "American Idol." Problem solved. I, for one, am grateful to be able to watch the races I am not able to attend in person.
nah - my sarcasm did not come through. there are liars and cheats in all walks of life. however, that does not make everyone a liar or a cheat. I like to think that the same applies to cycling.
Using the logic favored by most who post in "The Clinic" - we can safely assume that anyone whoever rode, managed, or was associated with Mercury, Saturn, Navigators, Health Net, and Fly V Australia are equally guilty.
There have many interesting posts on Mr. Vroomen's interview. For an interesting way to look at it, re-read the article but substitute "CEO of Trek" for Vroomen and "TDF Victories" for the Giro. Does it change anyone's perspective on his comments?
"When asked if he and Cervelo were able to profit on the back of possible doping related successes, Vroomen explained that markets and return rates from wins are never that cut and dry.
“As to benefits from races, I think that’s genuinely overestimated. The best data I have was in 2008 when...
Exactly my point. You have to go to Frank Schleck who climbed it in 40"+. No slight to Frank, but I do not consider him an "elite" climber like Andy & Alberto.
Seeking your thoughts:
If the winner of this year's stage up Alpe d'Huez does the final climb in less then approximately 40' 00" will he be considered to be doping?