2-way fit wheels

[Elegant Degenerate]

Is there a downside to two-way fit wheels? Just looking a wiggle and they've got campag eurus clincher and two-way fit at the same price, same year, and a negligible weight difference.

I'd probably use clinchers 99% of the time even if i had the option, but just wondering.

 

[Race Radio]

Is there a downside to two-way fit wheels? Just looking a wiggle and they've got campag eurus clincher and two-way fit at the same price, same year, and a negligible weight difference.

I'd probably use clinchers 99% of the time even if i had the option, but just wondering.

If you are not going to ride tubeless then get the regular. Much easier to get tires on.

 

[Master50]

There is an ever increasing number of tubeless options coming. Keep your options open. Can't see ever going back to tubes on my MTB.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Is there a downside to two-way fit wheels? Just looking a wiggle and they've got campag eurus clincher and two-way fit at the same price, same year, and a negligible weight difference.

I'd probably use clinchers 99% of the time even if i had the option, but just wondering.

Normal road tires and some tubeless 'may' be kinda a challenge to get them on first time..but use 'supple' tires, like Vittoria. Stay away from Challenge anything, they are junque.

AND tubeless on MTB makes great sense..on road/cross, not so much. 12 years in, still 'really' only one tubeless road maker...Hutch..

 

[Race Radio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nit55MSaFJ4&list=PLUdAMlZtaV12TworwtNz8gIhGit_4Glfj&index=1

Good tubeless review

 

[Elegant Degenerate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nit55MSaFJ4&list=PLUdAMlZtaV12TworwtNz8gIhGit_4Glfj&index=1

Good tubeless review

Ah - yes that's a good review.

It does sound like a bit of faffing about for not much gain for a 70kg rider sticking mainly to sealed roads in dry climate... Also if I bought a set of eurus, I'd want it feeling pretty sharp, which it sounds like tubeless doesn't help.

Having said that, there still doesn't appear to be much of a downside to two way fit if the price is the same. Fitting the tyres sounds like that's about the worst of it.

 

[winkybiker]

One of the nice things about using tubes, rather than sealant is that when you get a major slash in your tyre, you don't blow white goo all over yourself, your bike and your buddies.

Road tubeless - solving problems you don't have. If I wanted to faff around with strange liquids, I'd run tubs.

 

[Master50]

One of the nice things about using tubes, rather than sealant is that when you get a major slash in your tyre, you don't blow white goo all over yourself, your bike and your buddies.

Road tubeless - solving problems you don't have. If I wanted to faff around with strange liquids, I'd run tubs.

Tubeless work without sealant too. The most common flat is a simple puncture. I am sure I have 30 punctures to every cut sidewall on my road bike. The point of sealant is to avoid stopping for the most common cause of flats. For road racing I think ordinary clinchers are still in the lead but for commuters, Cross, gravel road bikes, Randonneur, utility, coffee shop, etc tubeless presents some advantages in terms of reliability. Sidewall blow outs notwithstanding.
In terms of a choice between a 2way fit and straight clincher is simple in my mind get the one that has the broadest uses. It might turn out to be a great cross wheel too? it works with simple clinchers and tubeless tires too. you get an extra choice as does your future customer of you sell them.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Tubeless work without sealant too. The most common flat is a simple puncture. I am sure I have 30 punctures to every cut sidewall on my road bike. The point of sealant is to avoid stopping for the most common cause of flats. For road racing I think ordinary clinchers are still in the lead but for commuters, Cross, gravel road bikes, Randonneur, utility, coffee shop, etc tubeless presents some advantages in terms of reliability. Sidewall blow outs notwithstanding.
In terms of a choice between a 2way fit and straight clincher is simple in my mind get the one that has the broadest uses. It might turn out to be a great cross wheel too? it works with simple clinchers and tubeless tires too. you get an extra choice as does your future customer of you sell them.

Depends. The 'center' of road racing/cross racing, Europe, certainly not the Div III stuff in the US(and most of them also), use tubulars..not clinchers and certainly not tubeless. Another 'from MTB' that marketeers are trying to morph into road bikes, like disc brakes.

No suspension for 'gravel grinders', (whatever that is)??

Sure that's next. silly

 

[Master50]

Depends. The 'center' of road racing/cross racing, Europe, certainly not the Div III stuff in the US(and most of them also), use tubulars..not clinchers and certainly not tubeless. Another 'from MTB' that marketeers are trying to morph into road bikes, like disc brakes.

No suspension for 'gravel grinders', (whatever that is)??

Sure that's next. silly

Tubeless for road or cross is emerging as more tyre choices and wheels become available. Of course the Euro guys have 2 and 4 sets of Cross wheels with mud tires or hard tires glued on and that will not change anytime soon. most of the local cross racers have 1 set of wheels with mud tyres glued on because they are the greatest advantage when the courses are muddy and or wet but to change tyres for varying conditions you are peeling tires off and gluing the others the night before. Not saying tubeless is beating tubular but you can change tires the day of the race on your 1 set of wheels and have at least a good alternative to tubular. tubeless do allow low pressures and no pinch flats. Burping is getting rarer as the combinations of tires and wheels improves. they make for a good alternative to tubular and needing as many sets of wheels for the weekend warriors. they are a much better alternative to straight clinchers and a reasonable alternative to the commitment you need to use tubulars. Then the maintenance of your tires but that is another topic.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Tubeless for road or cross is emerging as more tyre choices and wheels become available. Of course the Euro guys have 2 and 4 sets of Cross wheels with mud tires or hard tires glued on and that will not change anytime soon. most of the local cross racers have 1 set of wheels with mud tyres glued on because they are the greatest advantage when the courses are muddy and or wet but to change tyres for varying conditions you are peeling tires off and gluing the others the night before. Not saying tubeless is beating tubular but you can change tires the day of the race on your 1 set of wheels and have at least a good alternative to tubular. tubeless do allow low pressures and no pinch flats. Burping is getting rarer as the combinations of tires and wheels improves. they make for a good alternative to tubular and needing as many sets of wheels for the weekend warriors. they are a much better alternative to straight clinchers and a reasonable alternative to the commitment you need to use tubulars. Then the maintenance of your tires but that is another topic.

Really? Emerging?

Tubeless road has been around for about 12 years..now there are 'more choices'?

The 2 big boys, Vittoria and Continental, both looked at tubeless road and both said, I don't get it'.

As to cross-yes, I agree that for a one wheelset, one bike rider, tubeless may make sense altho for some, better bring a compressor and a set of metal tire levers or you will not swap tires before the race as it starts to rain or snow.

To a certain point but burping on cross is still a big problem.

BUT like a of MTB stuff morphing to road, tubeless road is an answer to a not asked question. Supple tires, supple tubes, a bit of Orange seal..rivals the 'ride' of tubeless(mostly better tho) w/o the mess.

 

[winkybiker]

Really? Emerging?


The 2 big boys, Vittoria and Continental, both looked at tubeless road and both said, I don't get it'.

......... tubeless road is an answer to a not asked question......

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