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After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2017

After the second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2017

  • Froome

    Votes: 105 66.5%
  • Aru

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Bardet

    Votes: 13 8.2%
  • Uran

    Votes: 17 10.8%
  • Martin

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Landa

    Votes: 5 3.2%
  • Yates

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Vino

    Votes: 10 6.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Barguil

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    158
  • Poll closed .
If Froome, Aru,and Bardet perform the same as they did in Stage 13 last year, Aru will lose 2 minutes to Froome, while Bardet will lose 1:43. Obviously these are only estimates and they could perform entirely different, but it just gives us an idea.

This means that Aru will have to gain 2:18 on Froome, Bardet will need 2:06. However unlikely, these time gaps are not impossible to gain on the final two days in the Alps. This TT also has a climb which could help limit the losses of Aru and Bardet, and if either is in yellow they could be motivated to perform better than usual (Contador in 2007). All this is fairly pointless if they don't even get in yellow in the first place. Here's hoping for plenty of attacks in the coming days.



Note: I'm not forgetting Uran, he just wasn't taking part in last years Tour so I don't know what to expect - although he will probably perform better than Aru and Bardet.
I posted this earlier on today but this seems to be the more appropriate thread. Unless Froome cracks completely he will win this Tour. Could be a different race if Astana still had Fuglsang.

This Tour reminds me of last years Tour in that, unlike 2013 and 2015, there is no one stage that Froome destroys all the fans' and riders' hopes, instead he just gradually chips away and before you know it he wins again.
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

I voted for Vino :D .

If there are attacks everyday like the one today, at some point, one will work. No one has attacked the TdF-Sky team like this before, It can't be just AG2R though. Like USPS before, there was an inferiority complex that prevented Froome's opponents to attack him, except for a few late moves-istar when the race was already lost. The race is not lost with so many within seconds of Dawg. That's where I deeply disagree with the critics of AG2R today, like hrotha: they didn't spank the King, but they showed that he's naked. Psychologically, today was vey significant.

Froome is still the favorite. Aru and Bardet have to make a decision: go for the ultimate prize and risk a blowback, or play for a safe podium. Same for Uran, although he probably thinks podium. Martin can be a poison, a thorn in Sky's side...too close to ignore. We shall see.
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

Tonton said:
I voted for Vino :D .

If there are attacks everyday like the one today, at some point, one will work. No one has attacked the TdF-Sky team like this before, It can't be just AG2R though. Like USPS before, there was an inferiority complex that prevented Froome's opponents to attack him, except for a few late moves-istar when the race was already lost. The race is not lost with so many within seconds of Dawg. That's where I deeply disagree with the critics of AG2R today, like hrotha: they didn't spank the King, but they showed that he's naked. Psychologically, today was vey significant.

Froome is still the favorite. Aru and Bardet have to make a decision: go for the ultimate prize and risk a blowback, or play for a safe podium. Same for Uran, although he probably thinks podium. Martin can be a poison, a thorn in Sky's side...too close to ignore. We shall see.
Tour de France 2013 stage 9.
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

Tonton said:
I voted for Vino :D .

If there are attacks everyday like the one today, at some point, one will work. No one has attacked the TdF-Sky team like this before, It can't be just AG2R though. Like USPS before, there was an inferiority complex that prevented Froome's opponents to attack him, except for a few late moves-istar when the race was already lost. The race is not lost with so many within seconds of Dawg. That's where I deeply disagree with the critics of AG2R today, like hrotha: they didn't spank the King, but they showed that he's naked. Psychologically, today was vey significant.

Froome is still the favorite. Aru and Bardet have to make a decision: go for the ultimate prize and risk a blowback, or play for a safe podium. Same for Uran, although he probably thinks podium. Martin can be a poison, a thorn in Sky's side...too close to ignore. We shall see.
Both Aru and Bardet have both shown before that they want more than just the podium.
 
Probably Froome, since his rivals don't finish him even when given the opportunity.
Still hoping that it is someone else than Froome, because with the current gaps, (Froome will gain a lot of time on the ITT) that would mean a great stage happened on the way to Paris. (unless there was a crash or something)
There is also the fact that I don't like Froome's personality.
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

Bardet will ride everyone off his wheel on the galibier without attacking but then waits on the top of the pass because he thinks it's too far out for an attack.

Therefore Froome will win
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

Netserk said:
Tonton said:
I voted for Vino :D .

If there are attacks everyday like the one today, at some point, one will work. No one has attacked the TdF-Sky team like this before, It can't be just AG2R though. Like USPS before, there was an inferiority complex that prevented Froome's opponents to attack him, except for a few late moves-istar when the race was already lost. The race is not lost with so many within seconds of Dawg. That's where I deeply disagree with the critics of AG2R today, like hrotha: they didn't spank the King, but they showed that he's naked. Psychologically, today was vey significant.

Froome is still the favorite. Aru and Bardet have to make a decision: go for the ultimate prize and risk a blowback, or play for a safe podium. Same for Uran, although he probably thinks podium. Martin can be a poison, a thorn in Sky's side...too close to ignore. We shall see.
Tour de France 2013 stage 9.
I don't recall Froome being dropped...attacked, yes, isolated yes, four years ago. That makes today very special, doesn't it? Which is my point BTW.
 
Wait what, was there a winner before the second rest day?

As we all know, you can never tell what will happen (bad legs, cramps, sh*ts, crash, flats, mechs., bonk...), but unless the guys 2-7 do something before the TT, its CF's race. They have to be a bit frustrated that they rode hard today, and even with an issue they didn't topple CF.
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

Gigs_98 said:
Bardet will ride everyone off his wheel on the galibier without attacking but then waits on the top of the pass because he thinks it's too far out for an attack.

Therefore Froome will win
Or he hears on the radio that Froome had a mechanical so decided to wait at the top to show good sportsmanship!
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

Tonton said:
Netserk said:
Tonton said:
I voted for Vino :D .

If there are attacks everyday like the one today, at some point, one will work. No one has attacked the TdF-Sky team like this before, It can't be just AG2R though. Like USPS before, there was an inferiority complex that prevented Froome's opponents to attack him, except for a few late moves-istar when the race was already lost. The race is not lost with so many within seconds of Dawg. That's where I deeply disagree with the critics of AG2R today, like hrotha: they didn't spank the King, but they showed that he's naked. Psychologically, today was vey significant.

Froome is still the favorite. Aru and Bardet have to make a decision: go for the ultimate prize and risk a blowback, or play for a safe podium. Same for Uran, although he probably thinks podium. Martin can be a poison, a thorn in Sky's side...too close to ignore. We shall see.
Tour de France 2013 stage 9.
I don't recall Froome being dropped...attacked, yes, isolated yes, four years ago. That makes today very special, doesn't it? Which is my point BTW.

The echelon stage in that Tour is a much better example as well.
 
Re: After second rest day, who will win the Tour de France 2

If Froome, Aru,and Bardet perform the same as they did in Stage 13 last year, Aru will lose 2 minutes to Froome, while Bardet will lose 1:43. Obviously these are only estimates and they could perform entirely different, but it just gives us an idea.

Maybe a better, more up-to-date estimate would come from the opening ITT. The final ITT is only about 50% longer than the opening ITT, and all the time gaps between Froome and the other GC hopefuls there were less than a minute, with Aru and Bardet about 40 seconds slower. Moreover, the climb in the middle should reduce the disadvantage that climbing specialists usually have in flat ITTs.

I expect Froome to wear the MJ the rest of the way, but if he should fall behind one of the others by more than a minute prior to the ITT, he should be worried.