Apparently EPO Does Not Work!

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Athame said:
Well OK, so EPO doesn't work but according to Lance Armstrong's Livestrong Foundation
(I know, I know) testosterone DOES work.

I just found this gem http://www.howlifeworks.com:

"Most people don't realize that testosterone is a vital hormone for maintaining
overall good health. An article from the Lance Armstrong Foundation's
Livestrong.com site, noted that testosterone stimulates the use of stored body
fat for energy and keeps you looking lean. It also helps in the battle against
cardiovascular disease, diabetes, osteoporosis, obesity, depression and
numerous other ailments."


__________________________ I think they forgot to add that it also helps you
win 7 TdF's, in a row *BEOTCH*

Livestrong.com <> Livestrong.org.
 
beowulf said:
I do not know if this has been posted already.

Taken from this article: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...says-peerreviewed-journal-20121206-2awx3.html

This reminds of the old steroid studies done way back, almost a half century ago!
It seems as though all of the researchers/Drs got together to cull roid use through bogus (poorly designed) studies.
The results clearly showed that steroid use did not cause increases in strength or size.
If you looked into the details of each study you would have found they were all missing crucial elements.

For example participants in these studies didn't:
1) know how to train - thrown into a gym without a coach or any guidance
2) train at all
3) use weights or resistance - engaged in other activities instead
4) have enough healthy food available

Same old....
 
Interesting that Canova doesn't believe that EPO works on his best athletes

Also if I know there are drugs able to increase the ability to transport oxygen, I continue to think these drugs, like EPO or CERA, can’t work with the top African athletes. I don’t have any proof about this, but I have kinds of proofs that people looking at the effects of doping don’t have. The proof I have is very simple: I have many athletes between the best in the World, with some world record holders, AND THEY ARE COMPLETELY CLEAN. I can put my hands on fire they are clean. NOT ONE OF THEM ASKED ME DURING THEIR CAREER FOR ANY SUPPORT, LEGAL TOO. It was not part of their mentality to look for any type of aid. The top African athletes have an incredible confidence in their mental and physical ability, knowing their results depend on themselves only. The most part of these athletes, when not able to have a good result, don’t look for any excuse, simply accept the idea to be defeated by somebody else stronger in the race. If you believe you can run your best only using drugs, and you don’t want to use, you create a big limit to your motivation, and never can reach results connected with your real talent.

Elsewhere he has said because the Kenyan athletes where born at altitude then for them taking EPO is even more dangerous than for others,

Not sure if his arguments are credible or not
 
ulrichw's and Merckx index's posts should be moved to right after the initial post to expedite some folks' evaluations.

My own $0.02:

This type of "article" annoys me in that it is a review of, or commentary on, past literature with no original research. The authors seem to have a bias against using VO2 max as a parameter to describe performance ability. They argue against the findings of the other 10-15 papers that do find a benefit to using EPO.

You can go to Figure 1 of the article (available freely from BJCP with the link ulrichw provided) and look at the previous results...VO2 max increases 10-20% in every case it seems. I would take that any day and ride away from the placebo riders listening to music...:D