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I am a fan of Roman Kreuziger and after his transfer to Astana, my intererest in this team has grown :) I try to gather some information about team Astana in the year 2011 and I want to know your opinions. What do you think about following Astana season after some changes in the team. (goals for the team, roles of the riders, if the leaders will have strong support in mountains). And I am interested in your opinion on Roman Kreuziger as a new leader with Alexander Vinokurov. Who will be stronger, who wil be captain where?

Team changes (http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/774/)

Frederik Kessiakof (Zwe) < Garmin-Transitions
Rémy di Gregorio (Fra) < La Française des Jeux
Mirco Lorenzetto (Ita) < Lampre-Farnese Vini
Robert Kiserlovski (Kro) < Liquigas-Doimo
Roman Kreuziger (Tje) < Liquigas-Doimo
Evgeni Petrov (Rus) < Team Katusha
Francesco Masciarelli (Ita) < Acqua & Sapone
Simon Clarke (Aus) < ISD-Neri
Tanel Kangert (Est) < EC St-Etienne Loire (Elite-2)
??? Morris Possoni (WRu) < Sky Pro Cycling Team
 
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The Hitch

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monopost said:
I am a fan of Roman Kreuziger and after his transfer to Astana, my intererest in this team has grown :) I try to gather some information about team Astana in the year 2011 and I want to know your opinions. What do you think about following Astana season after some changes in the team. (goals for the team, roles of the riders, if the leaders will have strong support in mountains). And I am interested in your opinion on Roman Kreuziger as a new leader with Alexander Vinokurov. Who will be stronger, who wil be captain where?

Team changes (http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/774/)

Frederik Kessiakof (Zwe) < Garmin-Transitions
Rémy di Gregorio (Fra) < La Française des Jeux
Mirco Lorenzetto (Ita) < Lampre-Farnese Vini
Robert Kiserlovski (Kro) < Liquigas-Doimo
Roman Kreuziger (Tje) < Liquigas-Doimo
Evgeni Petrov (Rus) < Team Katusha
Francesco Masciarelli (Ita) < Acqua & Sapone
Simon Clarke (Aus) < ISD-Neri
Tanel Kangert (Est) < EC St-Etienne Loire (Elite-2)
??? Morris Possoni (WRu) < Sky Pro Cycling Team
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Vino said something this year along the lines of " The Giro is for me, the Tour is for Contador".

This year, swap "me" for "Kreuziger", and Contador for "me"

So Kreuziger for Giro and domestique in Tour, Vino as leader in Tour. Neither to podium. Maybe win a stage and impress. Both to go for Ardennes classics.
 
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It will be interesting to see Kreuziger develop. He seems a little behind the curve of guys like Nibali and Schleck at his age. I will be interested in his relationship with Vino. I think if he can develop Vino's aggressiveness, then he could improve more dramatic.

As far as 2011, eventhough he has said before that he can't do it, in an interview earlier this month Vino says he still dreams about the TDF so I think he wants one last shot at it this year. The Alps are more made for him, little more of power climbing. HE added several strong mountain domestiques to help.

I think Roman should main target the Vuelta. I think that will be his best chance out of the 3 Grand Tour's for success IMO.
 
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sherer

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Roman is a very good rider he and hopefully next season will be the year he steps up and really delivers.

Watching Vino go for the TdF will be a dream to watch and should give us an exciting race just can't see him getting an overall though
 
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monopost

Oct 17, 2010
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Carl0880 said:
It will be interesting to see Kreuziger develop. He seems a little behind the curve of guys like Nibali and Schleck at his age. I will be interested in his relationship with Vino. I think if he can develop Vino's aggressiveness, then he could improve more dramatic.
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Shleck proves qualities few years, but Roman and Nibali was moreless leveled, but Nibali had great last season. So I hope Roman could similary jump in following seasons, when he will have a full support. For example When Nibali and Basso were leaders or co-leaders Kreuziger did a luxury teammate or co-leader. When Kreuziger was leader or co-leader nobody of these three did the same.

And as you said. Kreuziger needs to learn how to be more aggresive, how to keep the pase when it varies quickly, when everybody is attacking. So he can learn from the king of attacks, from Vino.
 
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python

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The Hitch said:
Vino said something this year along the lines of " The Giro is for me, the Tour is for Contador".

This year, swap "me" for "Kreuziger", and Contador for "me"

So Kreuziger for Giro and domestique in Tour, Vino as leader in Tour. Neither to podium. Maybe win a stage and impress. Both to go for Ardennes classics.
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exactly what gryvko said in this interesting interview
http://translate.google.com/transla...-podvodim-itogi.html&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
(some parts come out clear, some are barely intelligible but a Pole should make it out :p)

other interesting comment gryvko made was that 'contador affair' resulted in bribes and kickbacks.
 
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Beech Mtn

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rxgqgxnyfz said:
Bribing was mentioned referring to Armstrong.
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Were you able to read the original article? I was stuck with the Google translation, which made it sound like bribes were going to the UCI and "kickbacks" to journalists. Did that mean that Lance and/or Alberto were also paying journalists to write stories a certain way?

Thanks for the info - the Google translation was unclear.
 
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rmacek said:
Roman Kreuziger confirmed that he decided to ride Giro next year. He wants to fight for podium.
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To be honest though with Vino he's been forced into riding the Giro. The comments saying that's what he wants to go for have sort of been forced onto him
 
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monopost

Oct 17, 2010
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sherer said:
To be honest though with Vino he's been forced into riding the Giro. The comments saying that's what he wants to go for have sort of been forced onto him
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It's hard to say, he needed some change. Anyway, I think this could help him, but a little bit pitty of lost possibility to gain the white yersey. The following year was the biggest chance for it. Shleck, Nibali have crossed that bound of age.
 
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http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6...together-in-Italy-at-the-end-of-November.aspx

ok so this is team astana for 2011:
Assan BAZAYEV (KAZ)
Simon CLARKE (AUS)
Allan DAVIS (AUS)
Rémy DI GREGORIO (FRA)
Alexandr DYACHENKO (KAZ)
Dmitriy FOFONOV (KAZ)
Enrico GASPAROTTO (ITA)
Maxim GOUROV (KAZ)
Andriy GRIVKO (UKR)
Maxim IGLINSKIY (KAZ)
Valentin IGLINSKIY (KAZ)
Joseph JUFRE (SPA)
Tanel KANGERT (EST)
Fredrik KESSIAKOFF (SWE)
Roman KIREYEV (KAZ)
Robert KISERLOVSKI (CRO)
Roman KREUZIGER (CZE)
Mirco LORENZETTO (ITA)
Francesco MASCIARELLI (ITA)
Yevgeniy NEPOMNYACHSHIY (KAZ)
Evgueny PETROV (RUS)
Sergey RENEV (KAZ)
Gorazd STANGELJ (SLO)
Paolo TIRALONGO (ITA)
Tomas VAITKUS (LIT)
Alexandr VINOKUROV (KAZ)
Andrey ZEITS (KAZ)



Alexandr VINOKUROV (KAZ) Roman KREUZIGER (CZE)
Paolo TIRALONGO (ITA) Maxim IGLINSKIY (KAZ)
Tomas VAITKUS (LIT) Evgueny PETROV (RUS)
Andriy GRIVKO (UKR) Robert KISERLOVSKI (CRO)
Dmitriy FOFONOV (KAZ)


that would be a pretty solid team for tour de france.
 
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rxgqgxnyfz

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According to kazakhstani newspaper, Vino and Kreuziger will compete in Giro and in the Tour, and they will be switching leadership roles for GTs. The Tour part might change though as season goes.

Astana will start 2010th season in Tour Down Under with Allan Davis as a leader.
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rxgqgxnyfz

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sherer said:
To be honest though with Vino he's been forced into riding the Giro. The comments saying that's what he wants to go for have sort of been forced onto him
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http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...astana-s-ambitions-in-contador-s-absence.html :
We have come to the conclusion that it wouldn't be a bad idea to fight for the podium at the Giro. They are interested in succeeding in this race, and for me it is a challenge as well. I would like to point out that they didn't push me into this decision, it was up to me.
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sherer

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as I said, he's hardly likely to say "I really want to go for the Tour, it's the more important race, etc etc". I'd fully expect him to follow the party line and say he supports the decision to ride the Giro. Saying something and meaning it are two different things
 
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rxgqgxnyfz

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So i shoud listen to random forum dweller on what a certain rider thinks rather than rider himself.

Niiiice logic right there, pal.

Similar "party line" argument never stopped Horner, Davis, Stangeli, Pereiro and bunch of other riders from publicly complaining about not participating in a Tour, but noooo -- random forum dweller knows best of course!
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KazakhNeRider

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auscyclefan94 said:
Hope Simon clarke has a good season. Is he riding TDU?
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Allan Davis, Simon Clarke, Maxim Gourov, Andriy Grivko, Valentin Iglinskiy, Tanel Kangert, Yevgeniy Nepomnyachshiy.
 
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