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Joachim

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That article is 3 years old. So have the German, British and Australian bikes been banned?

The UCI have said that it is not their problem what price the bike is, or how many are available, just that the product is for sale.

Indeed. No purchase does not equal not commercially available. You need to ask yourselves why none of the competing teams have bought one. They've had 3 years to try, and raise a stink if they weren't forthcoming. If these German, Australian and British bikes offer an advantage that is not in the 'spirit of the rules' why is there a deafening silence from the very people who are allegedly being cheated?
 
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BroDeal said:
Sky's cheat gear has prices that were chosen expressly to prevent people from buying. They have a helmet that cost three thousand pounds for gawdsake. They do not even monitor inquiries on a timely basis. That they are for sale is a charade.
I thought this was BC's gear not Skys?

The only stipulation the UCI make is that the bikes should be for sale. They do not care about price. That being the case why should BC? They spend a lot of money on it and if people want it they should have to pay for it. That is the same of any limited product where so much is spent on R&D.
 
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BroDeal said:
Those who would carry out a bureaucratic conspiracy to break equipment rules would have no problem carrying out a similar conspiracy to blood dope.
They have not broken any equipment rules so the second part does not hold.
Second your linking of those two is laughable at best.
Finally, why not save that for the clinic.
 
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Darryl Webster said:
The prices seem utterly fabricated to a) ensure NO sales ( Have there been any? ) and b) very questionable as to how they've been arrived at and for what motive(s).
And in that final point maybe a question that belongs in the clinic.
So to fund what you infer in the latter part of your post you suggest that they ensure no sales?
 
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Don't be late Pedro said:
So to fund what you infer in the latter part of your post you suggest that they ensure no sales?

You really believe those prices are a true reflection of the costs ? :rolleyes:
Looks to me an ideal way for a bit of creative accountancy to use funds elsewhere . Then again perhaps I've just a suspicious mind.
 
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Darryl Webster said:
You really believe those prices are a true reflection of the costs ? :rolleyes:
Can't comment on that exact area but in my field they spend millions on trying to make things faster (I'm talking in the nano-seconds) and in the end it is the law of diminishing returns. But if you are slightly better than the competition it is worth it and then some.
 

Joachim

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Darryl Webster said:
You really believe those prices are a true reflection of the costs ? :rolleyes:

Almost certainly yes.

Looks to me an ideal way for a bit of creative accountancy to use funds elsewhere . Then again perhaps I've just a suspicious mind.

There are a million other ways of hiding furtive spending without drawing attention to it.
 
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Joachim said:
Almost certainly yes.



There are a million other ways of hiding furtive spending without drawing attention to it.

Indeed there are..and this is one. While gullible people like yourself excuse this behaviour its clearly a way that may work.
 
Darryl Webster said:
You really believe those prices are a true reflection of the costs ? :rolleyes:
Looks to me an ideal way for a bit of creative accountancy to use funds elsewhere . Then again perhaps I've just a suspicious mind.

It doesn't matter if the prices are a true reflection or not.

BC does not want to sell any part of its competitive advantage. As the rules stand, they have to make the components available, but why the hell should they make it easy for anyone?

Like I said, its a competition, let the other nations develop their own equipment.
 

Joachim

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You don't get it do you.

Do you really think that trying to hide illegal spending in THE most controversial aspect of that team's operation would be sensible or likely? Pretty much THE only thing that draws any scrutiny ?
 
D-Queued said:
Pretty sure the Bugatti Veyron is commercially available, even if most of them have been wrapped around telephone poles.

In fact, the commercial version of the 787 is barely $150 million. You can probably have a custom version made up, though, and get away from having to deal with commercial flight.

These are both even in serial production - as opposed to the smoke and mirrors scenario.

Dave.

Make sure you have extra fire extinguishers option with the 787.
 
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Even though this is an old thread, I'd like to point out to the idiot earlier asking about the Australian bikes. Yes they are commercially available....