BCS Bowl Games (Poll)

[on3m@n@rmy]

ACC's Clemson maybe had the 16th best offense in the nation, but against who? Clemson's D was embarassing. The biggest challenge to the BSU Broncos next year should be the travel. I think Broncos will roll.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Wrong. The biggest challenge to Boise will continue to be the NCAA and BCS selection committee. They could go 12-0 (and they might) and I guarantee you they won't end up in the BCS championship, and still may not get a BCS berth.

 

[mikeNphilly]

Wrong. The biggest challenge to Boise will continue to be the NCAA and BCS selection committee. They could go 12-0 (and they might) and I guarantee you they won't end up in the BCS championship, and still may not get a BCS berth.

100% correct, WVU in the same boat, we have to win every game every year...one slip up, and the press is like "well, there ya go WVU is not for real". I root for Boise ST. to go 12-0 the past few years, just to see what the BCS people do with it. Problem is their schedule, the BCS "computers" does not rank it high, so they will always be behind the 8 ball. No "big" teams want to play them and get beat or college football would be turned upside down.

To much money involved with these Bowl Games, they will never go away, plus the one positive is it does let the kids go to someplace many would not get the chance to go to.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

There are two scenarios I see as a way out. First, there would need to be a way to integrate bowl games into a playoff. Such as having a +4 (a football "final four" if you will) teams that playoff. And maybe these three games would need to be have bowl games integrated into them as well. The other potential is if we end up with four, 16-team superconferences. This is a direction I see happening in a few years anyway. This could lead to pressure for a playoff of some sort.

The guys on Fox Sports radio brought up an interesting sticky situation. Let's say Alabama beats LSU in one of those 10-9 games on Monday, and at the end of the game it's one everyone knows LSU should have won. There is nothing that compels the voters to choose Alabama when voting for #1. As a matter of fact, there would be compelling reason not to. LSU had a harder schedule, won the SEC championship, beat Alabama in Alabama, beat Rose Bowl winner Oregon, etc.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Wrong. The biggest challenge to Boise will continue to be the NCAA and BCS selection committee. They could go 12-0 (and they might) and I guarantee you they won't end up in the BCS championship, and still may not get a BCS berth.

I agree regarding the BCS championship game. But what I meant was is they will roll all over the ACC. Even so, I'm not convinced the move to the ACC was a smart one (more like stupid to me).

 

[ChrisE]

Alpe, I luv ya man but what kind of stupid poll is this?

Start one about the title game. I got Alabama.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Alpe, I luv ya man but what kind of stupid poll is this?

Uh, there was more than one (meaningful) bowl game played. Some were actually quiet good! Did you catch any?

Start one about the title game. I got Alabama.

Okay, I'll take LSU. I think Jordan Jefferson will have a good game, and they will put up a few more points than last time. I like them winning about 20-10. Could be 10-9 Alabama though.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

The guys on Fox Sports radio brought up an interesting sticky situation. Let's say Alabama beats LSU in one of those 10-9 games on Monday, and at the end of the game it's one everyone knows LSU should have won. There is nothing that compels the voters to choose Alabama when voting for #1. As a matter of fact, there would be compelling reason not to. LSU had a harder schedule, won the SEC championship, beat Alabama in Alabama, beat Rose Bowl winner Oregon, etc.

That right there is compelling argument for a playoff system. But if that situation comes about, that would be an injustice if losing LSU was voted #1. The champ should be based on head-to-head competion. Period. If LSU loses Monday then Bama should be the champ. And if LSU loses like that in a close one, an appropriate response to any of that "woulda-shoulda-coulda" crap is they "didn't".

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Okay, I'll take LSU. I think Jordan Jefferson will have a good game, and they will put up a few more points than last time. I like them winning about 20-10. Could be 10-9 Alabama though.

Alpe, are you an LSU alum?

 

[ChrisE]

Uh, there was more than one (meaningful) bowl game played. Some were actually quiet good! Did you catch any?


Okay, I'll take LSU. I think Jordan Jefferson will have a good game, and they will put up a few more points than last time. I like them winning about 20-10. Could be 10-9 Alabama though.

I was actually in Saudi Arabia and was able to watch the first game early one morning. Remember, that is when I got banned because I couldn't drink.

Alabama dominated that game, and I am still trying to figure out how they lost. Even on a neutral field after losing at home I think they should win.

I haven't watched much, but I watched Oregon and Wisconsin. Good game. I looked up Tuine (sic) to see where he was projected to be drafted. His is barely on the board. WTF? That guy is good. I fell asleep during the Stanford game. That's about it. Was outside bar b queing all weekend long and couldn't figure out how to work the remotes in the evening.

That RB from Wisconsin is the real deal.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

That RB from Wisconsin is the real deal.

agreed. He was pretty awesome.

 

[Cobber]

Wrong. The biggest challenge to Boise will continue to be the NCAA and BCS selection committee. They could go 12-0 (and they might) and I guarantee you they won't end up in the BCS championship, and still may not get a BCS berth.

But do you think Boise State would have deserved to go to the BCS championship if they went 12-0 this year? Look at who they play versus who Alabama played during the year. Would a 12-0 Boise State be better that a 11-1 Alabama losing to LSU in overtime? Boise States problem is that they play in a weak conference.....

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

No. I think there should be an 8-team playoff system. Four automatic berths from the top four conferences, and four others based on something similar to how the BCS computer works. Basically, the worst a team could do is finish about 12th and still make it to the playoffs. But they'd have to play the #1 team in the first round. A team could still win something like the WAC or Big Sky and not get in. But it's not likely.

But given the current situation I honestly don't know. I do think they should have gone to a BCS bowl at least. They would have put up a much better showing then Clemson did, that's for sure.

 

[Cobber]

Well, it looks like an 8-team playoff is unlikely, but a 4-team playoff might eventuate sometime soon.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ies-officials-discuss-possible-format-changes

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Thanks for the link. A 4-team playoff would be better than what we have now, and would be okay.

I agree that I don't ever see a really large playoff system (16+ teams). Not for many years, if ever anyway.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

To me a 4 team playoff would be okay too, but 8 would be better to allow the BSU's and TCU's out there a better chance to compete for the national championship. If they rotatated the playoff games among the bowl organizers so that one year the Rose Bowl gets the championship game, the next year the Orange Bowl gets it, and so on, that should keep organizers of the bowls happy. But I really don't know if that could work or not.

edit: congrats to 'Bama ftw tonight in emphatic fashion, and to LSU for a great season. (It's going to be a long time until next August)

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Great win for Alabama. Shows you what I know, picking LSU, and saying Jefferon would have a good game. A bit surprised they didn't put Lee in, but the better team won, no doubt.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Great win for Alabama. Shows you what I know, picking LSU, and saying Jefferon would have a good game. A bit surprised they didn't put Lee in, but the better team won, no doubt.

Well, I picked Clemson over WV. So welcome to my world.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Great win for Alabama. Shows you what I know, picking LSU, and saying Jefferon would have a good game. A bit surprised they didn't put Lee in, but the better team won, no doubt.

I went for LSU too.

Man, was that ever a no-contest mauling! I'm just glad that I had it tivo-ed and could watch today on ff. Sitting through that in real time would have been horrible.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

A mauling indeed. As much as I dislike the BCS, I have to say I don't think Oklahoma State or Oregon (or Michigan or VT for that matter) could have beaten Alabama. The Crimson Tide are the best team in college football.