Bike Stranded

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Hey guys i was wondering about the ways of transportation when you got your bike with you but can't ride it, the other day while i was cruising i got a flat tired and i needed to stop riding and I had to take a Drive back home. Have you experienced something similar?
 
Jun 11, 2015
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I carry tools and parts to repair almost any normal break-down. Also, the bike should come apart fairly easily to fit into most cars.

List of what I carry on the bike:
Multi-Tool
Spare Tube (2X)
Patch kit
Chain Tool
Quick Link
Tire levers
Pump
 
Apr 17, 2009
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Any typical rode bike or mountain bike should be transportable in virtually any auto.

Remove front wheel. May need to loose stem at steer tube to turn handlebars.

If venturing any distance from base, carry allen wrenches, tube and air source, I recommend tire tool
also.

Any specialty bike ie. cruisers,fat bikes etc may prove a bit more challenging.
 
GeorgeCurios said:
Hey guys i was wondering about the ways of transportation when you got your bike with you but can't ride it, the other day while i was cruising i got a flat tired and i needed to stop riding and I had to take a Drive back home. Have you experienced something similar?
No tire lever, tube, patch kit, pump? Poor preflight.
 
Jan 10, 2010
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When I first starting riding I carried 2 spare tubes, levers and a pump....no patch kit.

One solo ride I Punctured 3 times!! (yeah...same piece of glass 3 times....didn't know back then to remove the tyre and check the rubber thoroughly)

Had to call a Taxi to come get me and take me home.

Something you only do once :D
 
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JackRabbitSlims said:
When I first starting riding I carried 2 spare tubes, levers and a pump....no patch kit.

One solo ride I Punctured 3 times!! (yeah...same piece of glass 3 times....didn't know back then to remove the tyre and check the rubber thoroughly)

Had to call a Taxi to come get me and take me home.

Something you only do once :D
Ouch! Self adhesive patches are lifesavers, can even save you when your clincher tyre gets a cut.
 
May 11, 2009
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If you live in the USA and have a non-fixable mechanical on a bike ride I understand that AAA will now help. you.
 
Jul 25, 2010
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42x16ss said:
I've had a sidewall cut that was too bad to repair on the road, but luckily I carry a spare tubular with me when I ride.
A banknote can be used to get you home with a split tyre - particularly the plastic ones in some countries. Got me home once.
 
Apr 21, 2017
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You can get really cheap breakdown cover for bikes in Britain. It costs less than £20 a year. They won't the you home if its not near but they will pick you up 24 hours a day and take you to a public transport hub or a hotel.

Otherwise yeah, carry multitool, tube(s), patches, pump. Most things can be covered by this.
 
Apr 21, 2017
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Its easier to change a (pre-glued) tub than it is a clincher and tube. Mind you, I put a bit of Orange seal in my tubs and that does the trick nicely.

Other than that, I've gone full tubeless for all but the race bike. Its especially great in winter
 
Jun 5, 2009
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42x16ss said:
mcduff said:
Its easier to change a (pre-glued) tub than it is a clincher and tube. Mind you, I put a bit of Orange seal in my tubs and that does the trick nicely.
Once you know how to change a tub on the road you'll never go back. Sealants are getting really good too.
Except that a freshly glued tub can't be trusted not to roll off, so you need to approach the rest of the ride with some caution. I used tubs for donkeys' years but wouldn't dream of using them for training now.
 
Jul 18, 2010
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The only time I've ever had to walk home from a road ride (in about 280,000 km of riding) was the first time I cut the sidewall of a tyre. Lesson learned.

Now I always carry one spare inner tube, two tyre levers, a CO2 inflator and two 16g cartridges, and an old lip balm tube, emptied of all its customary apparatus and with a crisp bank note rolled gently inside it.



If you cut a sidewall, the inner tube immediately will protrude through the slit and, no longer restrained by the tyre carcass, it will overexpand and burst. I carry the bank note in lieu of a spare clincher. A nice crisp note, wrapped radially around the replacement tube, will provide sufficient resistance to prevent the replacement tube also trying to escape through the slit in the tyre carcass. Rolled up inside the lip balm tube, the bank note will remain pristine and optimally 'stiff,' which is the key to its obstructing the tube's egress. And it's a reasonably safe method of carrying cash since few people would ever think to nick something that's had someone else's lips to it. Plus then you've always got a bob or two handy should you want to stop for a nice, hot cuppa.
 
May 11, 2009
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JackRabbitSlims said:
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One solo ride I Punctured 3 times!! (yeah...same piece of glass 3 times....didn't know back then to remove the tyre and check the rubber thoroughly)
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I carry tweezers - big help in removing thorns from tires after a flat.
 
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StyrbjornSterki said:
The only time I've ever had to walk home from a road ride (in about 280,000 km of riding) was the first time I cut the sidewall of a tyre. Lesson learned.

Now I always carry one spare inner tube, two tyre levers, a CO2 inflator and two 16g cartridges, and an old lip balm tube, emptied of all its customary apparatus and with a crisp bank note rolled gently inside it.

If you cut a sidewall, the inner tube immediately will protrude through the slit and, no longer restrained by the tyre carcass, it will overexpand and burst. I carry the bank note in lieu of a spare clincher. A nice crisp note, wrapped radially around the replacement tube, will provide sufficient resistance to prevent the replacement tube also trying to escape through the slit in the tyre carcass. Rolled up inside the lip balm tube, the bank note will remain pristine and optimally 'stiff,' which is the key to its obstructing the tube's egress. And it's a reasonably safe method of carrying cash since few people would ever think to nick something that's had someone else's lips to it. Plus then you've always got a bob or two handy should you want to stop for a nice, hot cuppa.
Hmmm...I'm gonna try that bank note idea. Thanks for sharing.
 
LOL, I started to read Styrbjorn’s post, and I thought the bank note was so he could buy something he needed to replace a tire. Clever use of money for sure.

I used to ride on tubulars, but as DL says, they aren’t really safe if the glue hasn’t set. It’s been a while, but I think after an emergency change on the road, I would be careful not to make any sharp turns. Now I use clinchers.

I’ve never gone anywhere on a bike without a pump, spare tube and tire levers (in the old days I used to use a couple of old spoons). If I’m going far afield I’ll take two spare tubes. I’ll sometimes take a patch kit, but only because it takes up so little space, and my bike bag’s a good place to put it so I always know where it is. I don’t expect to need it, and definitely don’t want to patch a leak on the road.

Now for something new in this thread: if I really want to cover all possibilities, and don’t mind carrying the extra weight, I’ll take a pair of rollerblades, or even one. They absolutely cannot get a flat, and they can take you great distances quite quickly. If you want to cut down on the weight, and aren’t using clip-on pedals, there are rollerblades with detachable wheel housing, so all you have to carry is that, while riding with the shoe portion. Of course, you will struggle somewhat on steep hills.
 
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In my experience, the danger of tubular spares rolling off the rim is largely overblown. I rode sew-ups exclusively until my favourite manufacturers (Clément and Vittoria) moved production to Asia. And I never felt the need to ride home on tenterhooks after mounting a spare.

First of all, don't forget that for many, many years, tubulars were all there was.



Why are these men wearing spare tyres (plural) like bandoliers? Because in the early years of the TdF, Tour director Henri Desgrange did not allow riders to receive any external assistance. Couldn't even toss them a sammie.

There was one famous incident when a rider broke his fork, pushed the bike to the next town with a blacksmith shoppe, borrowed the smithy's hearth and anvil to mend his fork, and rejoined the race (but the mend shortly also broke). Because the rules then required that no one apart the rider make any repairs to the bike.

Few of the roads were tarmac and they not uncommonly would have several punctures in a single stage, so winning the race literally often depended on continuing to ride on the rivet despite riding on a hastily-mounted spare.

As an unsupported enthusiast rider, there are mechanical measures you could take to reduce the risk, namely glue and air pressure. Some tyre glues by their nature offer better security after a roadside tyre change. The ones that dry soft and remain tacky are better in this regard that the ones that dry hard. The ones that dry hard also usually dry faster and have a higher ultimate bond strength, so are preferred by likes of track racers and criterium riders (because of the cut-and-thrust nature of their events). But they're a PITA to dismount and the glue has little to no leftover bonding strength.

And there's also tyre pressure. The more pressure you add to a tubular, the fatter and shorter it gets, meaning it literally contracts circumferentially on the rim, rather like a Chinese finger trap.



Some of the old knowledge has been watered down or lost and IMHO where modern riders tend to go wrong is thinking they can inflate the spare to the same pressure they were running in the punctured tyre and have the same security. When the truth is if you were running six bar before the puncture, you should inflate the spare to seven or eight, or maybe nine or ten if you intend pressing your luck (another reason I carry a CO2 inflator ;) ).

Spares also should be pre-glued (not everyone follows this practice, but then not everyone has roll-offs either), and a higher tyre pressure serves better to compress the glue on the tyre against the residual glue on the rim, resulting in a less marginal temporary bond.

I only ever used glues that remained tacky, and I always over-inflated any spare I mounted. And I only bothered moderating my speed after changing a puncture if the lean angle was so severe that I otherwise would have had to stop pedalling, because the lean angle was direct evidence of a high side-load on the tyre. AFAIK I never even came close to a roll-off.

Which isn't to say roll-offs don't happen, despite best, even professional, efforts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr89ku-K2WU

The most famous roll-off incident I can recall, Joseba Beloki, Stage 9, 2003 TdF. Not riding on a spare, naturally, but came down to a combination of unusual conditions. But there were upwards of 200 riders on the course that day and Beloki was the only one rolled a tyre.


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Merckx index, you might be interested to know that none other than Graeme Obree carried rollerblades when he competed in the 2013 international human-powered vehicle competition at Battle Mountain, Nevada. Well, not the whole set actually, just the wheels:



To me this looks uncannily like his preying mantis position carried to its logical extreme. This was on a shake-down run, he used a fully-enclosed plastic fairing in the race.

To make his vehicle as compact (and streamlined) as possible, The Flying Scotsman sought to reduce the leg articulation which ordinarily is needed to drive pedals in a circle. So he used a straight-push pedal system that converted linear motion into circular my means of bell cranks attached to crank arms on chainwheels. He used urethane wheels scavenged from a pair of rollerblades captured inside a parallel tracks (boxed in green) as the guides for his linear-push pedals.

The stark staring maddest bit of all, madder even than the 290-inch (!!!) large gear resulting from having the first chainwheel drive a second, was the breathing apparatus. Fresh air intake came through about a 5cm hole at the bow of the fairing (effectively ram air, once at speed), connected to the engine's air intake (Obree's mouth) by means of a flexible hose scuba snorkel. Nope, not kidding.
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StyrbjornSterki said:
Spares also should be pre-glued (not everyone follows this practice, but then not everyone has roll-offs either), and a higher tyre pressure serves better to compress the glue on the tyre against the residual glue on the rim, resulting in a less marginal temporary bond.
It's been a long time since I've used tubulars, but this statement jogs my memory. I now remember that my spares had glue on them, they were tacky to the touch. Plus, as you say, there was some glue on the rim. In any case, I do remember I never had a tire come off. I also remember opening up the old one to patch the leak, then sewing it back. Not a lot of fun.
 
Feb 23, 2017
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You shouldn't be riding someplace that's too far to walk home without knowing how to fix a flat, you should not be dependant upon others for your problems that are easily remedied on your own, grow up! Sorry to be rough with you but that is the essence of the problem, maturity, unless you have some sort of physical malformity that prevents you from fixing stuff.

There are plenty of You Tube videos showing how to fix flats, watch several of them and then practice, practice, practice till you can do a flat on the rear (rear because that's the most complicated, once you can do the rear the front is a snap, and besides most flats occur on the rear so you better know how to deal with that), you should be able to do a rear flat in under 20 minutes, as you get better that time will shorten.

So you will need certain tools. A pump is crucial, but getting a crappy pump is useless and frustrating so spend some money and get a good pump like the Lezyne Road Drive large (they come in 3 sizes, get only the large one) if you have presta valves which are skinny valves, but if you have Schrader valves (large diameter just like your car valves) then you need a different pump like the Lezyne Pressure Drive; OR if you don't really care about the pumps weight, size, and looks, the Topeak Road Morph G pump can do either Presta or Schrader and is a lot easier to pump air into tires then the Lezyne; the Topeak is not a true mini, it's more of a half of a full size frame pump. DO NOT believe all the marketing hype about this or that pump can reach 160 psi, most mini pumps on the market cannot even exceed 75 psi not alone 100 to 120 road bike riding levels. The ones I listed can and do, I've gotten my Lezyne Road Drive up to 125 psi just to see how far it could get but even that one as good as it I doubt seriously it can get to 160 like they claim it can, I don't even think the Topeak Road Morph G can get that high either but I've never tried, I may do that later just for to see, but I know it can go higher than the Lezyne; fortunately no one needs to go that high, usually between 80 to 115 is all most people need based on weight and tire width. There are only maybe 2 or 3, maybe 4 at the most mini pumps on the market that reach riding PSI levels.

Watch You Tube videos on how to fix a flat.

Next you need a set of unbreakable tire irons since beginners tend to be rough on tire irons, but also these will last a lifetime, so get the Soma Steel Core levers. You need only two. Use a small rubber band to bundle the irons together so they don't rattle as you ride.

Watch You Tube videos on how to fix a flat.

Next you need a spare tube, which will be kept in your seat bag, if you don't have a seat bag get one, Topeak makes a really nice one called the Aero Wedge Pack, they come in 3 sizes, for just commuting you should be fine with the middle size. Keep your tube in its box to prevent it from getting punctured while in the seat bag. When you have a flat simply roll up the old tube tightly and forcing the air out of the valve which you may have to open as you roll and stuff it back into the box.

Watch You Tube videos on how to fix a flat.

You need a patch kit, I like glueless patches but since you're new to all of this you should start with glue on type because glue can mask errors you might make in the tube preparation process. I like Rema patches the best, they should come with a glue tube, and a piece of sanding cardboard. Carry this with you in the seat bag, just in case you flat your spare you can at least patch a tube and continue riding.

Next you watch You Tube videos on how to fix a flat.

Any other tools are not necessary at this time, only after you get more experience at biking will other tools become necessary.

Then watch You Tube videos on how to fix a flat on the road (ahh tricked you didn't I?) If I could I would come over and show you how to fix a flat but since that's impossible due to geographical locations You Tube is the next best thing, and if you watch enough of them you'll get the idea on how it's done, then simply practice practice practice at home till you can do it in under 20 minutes. If you have a tube with a hole in it, inflate the tube outside the tire till it's about 4 times it's flatted size, and listen for the air leaking as you move around the tube starting at the stem and working back to the stem. If you find the hole, or if you have a tube with no hole, well put one in it! I know, weird, but it will help you to learn how to patch, and then make sure after you followed the directions by watching You Tube videos on how to fix a flat, that once installed in the tire and the tire is pumped up to riding psi make sure that the patch holds.

Word about pumps, you might be living someplace in Europe, there are some pumps that are sold there that are not sold in America where I'm located, it may well be that there may be more pumps there that can reach higher levels of PSI then what we have here that I'm unaware of, but I know a lot pumps we have here are sold in the EU and most of those cannot reach higher levels.

If you have some sort of physical issue with fixing stuff then consider purchasing a flat resistant tire and or installing a flat liner which goes between the tube and tire. The plastic flat liners don't work as well as the cloth ones like the Panaracer Flat Away but the plastic ones are cheaper and reuseable. Tires like the Conti Gatorskin have decent flat protection, but any tire can get a flat, so be prepared.
 
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When I first started riding the bike, I also face similar kind of problem. After someday it will be okay cause I understood what should I do. I started to take some tools with my bike like Spare tube, Patch kit, chain tool, tire levers kind of tools. You should also take a toolbox with some necessary tools those will be helpful for a comfortable riding.
Happy Riding…
 
Feb 23, 2017
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Not sure why you needed a drive back home just because you got a flat...do not ride prepared for such an event? If you don't ride prepared may I suggest either stay with an indoor trainer or never ride more distance then you willing to walk back.

I don't understand people out riding bikes that can't at least fix a flat, there are dozens of You Tube videos on how to fix a flat, watch a bunch of those, then practice practice practice on the rear of a bike by taking the wheel off, deflating the tire, remove the tire and tube, replace tire and tube, reinstall wheel onto bike, inflate, repeat, until it becomes easy. After you've done that a few times find an old tube an put a small pin hole in it unless you already have one that is leaking, fill the tube up so it expands to about twice it's normal size, find leak by listening and or passing the tube pass the underside of your nose just above your top lip, this area is for some reason sensitive and can detect the air leaking unless you already found it fast due to the size of the hole. then deflate tube and patch it according to what you learned watching those You Tube videos.

For beginners I recommend glue on patches because the glue will help hide any flaws you may have done in the preparation department, first you need to buff the area where the hole is larger then the patch will cover, you only need to take the shine off the tube you don't need to scrub tube material off, next apply a thin layer of glue in an area larger then the patch will cover, lay patch so that the hole ends up in the middle of the patch, press patch on for a 10 seconds, some patches come with a clear plastic peel off layer you can leave it on or take it off it won't matter. Install tube according to what you've been practicing and inflate.

Tools to fix a flat with are cheap, you need a patch kit, Rema are the best; you need tire irons, I don't like plastic because they can break especially in cold weather, I use Soma Steel Core levers and never broke one; if you have tough to install tires first make sure you've got the bead of the tire into the center area of the rim as much as possible (watch those videos) then try to install by hand if you still can't get a section on use the lever making sure you don't pinch the tube between the tire and the rim, if you still are having issues you can get a tool called a VAR tire lever https://www.amazon.com/Var-Nylon-Tire-Lever-System/dp/B004YJ30M8 this will make the job a snap. Inflate with a decent pump, the only pumps I like is the Lezyne Road Drive or the Topeak Race Rocket HP if you have a road bike with high pressure tires and using Presta valves, other wise for lower pressure tires any mini pump will work as long as it can be used on Schrader and Presta, the two pumps I mentioned are the only few pumps that can actually reach 100 psi, most mini's won't go above 70 psi no matter what they claim they can reach.
And that's all the tools you need to fix a flat with, not a big deal.

If you are somewhat mechanical inclined you can take a multi tool with you, if not don't bother carrying one if you don't know how to use one, and assuming you don't know how to fix a flat then I can't see you ever using a mini tool at least not till you get more confidence on minor bike repairs.
 

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