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Does UCI/WADA have lower testosterone test levels for positives among women than men, or is the test only for artificial testosterone at any level?

Wondering the same with haematocrit, which I think occurs naturally at higher levels in men than women. May be wrong on that.

Also, did someone mention on a thread here that one PED leads to facial changes (in jaw sizes, for example)? Have no idea whether this is relevant.

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i think Giorgia likes to be called George and bats for the other side ;)

but get her samples off to Cologne pronto :rolleyes:

who is doing the testing at Geelong? Probably UCI :mad:
 
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Anyone have some pictures on how she looked like 5-10 years back? Would be interesting to know if she's always looked masculine or if it somehow miraculously happened in the last few years.
 
Here's a picture of Giorgia when she signed with Forno d'Asolo in early 2005:

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Here's a picture of Giorgia with Marta Bastianelli, when she finished 3rd in the Worlds in 2007 (when Marta won):

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And here's Giorgia celebrating a win earlier this year:

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Since you guys will draw your own conclusions anyway, I'll leave you to it.
 
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Parrot23 said:
Also, did someone mention on a thread here that one PED leads to facial changes (in jaw sizes, for example)? Have no idea whether this is relevant.

Yes, supposedly HGH can re-initiate facial bone growth in adults, resulting in abnormal widening of the brow and lengthening of the jaw. Although it's hard to say, I think GeorgeH, Cipo, and even Cadel could be listed as Exhibits A, B, and C in support of this theory

As far as your accusations that tomboy-ish female cyclists MUST be doping... well, that is wild speculation and you may want to stop before Tammy Thomas goes all "Incredible Hulk" on your punk *ss.... :p

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"That makes me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry..."
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
...a woman who just happens to be a bit more butch than many of the others, you know, something that might be a natural advantage in a sporting environment?

Yeah, higher natural testosterone levels (vs. "nurtured" ones) could give some women vs. others a big edge.

Let's face it: typical male blood parameters (testosterone, haematocrit) are higher "quality" ("superior" :D) for power and endurance than female blood parameters, if I'm not mistaken.

Not sure how UCI/WADA handle this.

(I need to hire aussiecyclefan as a bodyguard against the tifosi: he should be all riled up after the Cattle Evans loss at WC :p and ready to blame Bertie's steak dinner)
 
So what you're saying is, if she has a higher natural testosterone level because of being a bit less feminine than the ideal, that should count against her. Should Damiano Cunego or the Colombians not be allowed to ride because of their higher natural hct value from living at altitude for centuries?

If it's natural, why should she be penalised for it? It would be like penalising José Rujano for being small, because that gives him an advantage in the climbs.