Bruyneel deserves a place on the gallows too

[Anonymous]

I have always thought that, regardless of how much Armstrong drove the ship, The Hog deserves the same punishment and disdain for his facilitation and part in the fraud. If I were him, I'd get the H3LL out of Dodge and never come back, but hopefully, they will take him off an Air France flight at the airport and make him do the perp walk too.

"We might as well win"...F*** you Hog.

 

[rhubroma]

Yes, though as a Belgian, unless he's commitied felonies in the US, what can be done about it?

PS: Of course he was being paid by US postal, so...

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I have always thought that, regardless of how much Armstrong drove the ship, The Hog deserves the same punishment and disdain for his facilitation and part in the fraud. If I were him, I'd get the H3LL out of Dodge and never come back, but hopefully, they will take him off an Air France flight at the airport and make him do the perp walk too.

"We might as well win"...F*** you Hog.

Yeah I am with you on this TFF...F$$$ the Hog.....

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, though as a Belgian, unless he's commitied felonies in the US, what can be done about it?

PS: Of course he was being paid by US postal, so...

Yea, if the gov is looking into wire fraud and the like, The Hog based his team here. I am not positive that we have an extradition treaty with Belgium, but my guess is that even if he leaves, they would send him back based on the crimes it is suggested they committed.

 

[Race Radio]

He avoided the Tour of Cali, the 2nd biggest race of the year for Radioshack.

Don't worry. He, and Stapleton, are in serious trouble.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I completely agree.

We shouldn't lose focus in all these latest rounds of information. One of the biggest goals here should be to curb doping and cheating, and the corruption that has gone with it, as much as possible. We can toss Armstrong in prison even, but that's not the entire picture. Not even close. Guys like JB, and Stapleton, need to pay the piper just the same.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Did armstrong know that this stuff was coming out during the tour of california? Just seems odd that he decided not to ride atoc all of a sudden and for bruyneel not to be in california as well.

 

[gregod]

look at the looooong list of bruyneel riders that have been caught or exposed as dopers. saiz is gone from cycling. the UCI really needs to act.

one thing, though. it appears according to the velonews' interview with scott mercier that doping existed at uspostal before bruyneel's arrival.

 

[gregod]

I completely agree.

We shouldn't lose focus in all these latest rounds of information. One of the biggest goals here should be to curb doping and cheating, and the corruption that has gone with it, as much as possible. We can toss Armstrong in prison even, but that's not the entire picture. Not even close. Guys like JB, and Stapleton, need to pay the piper just the same.

I agree. call me petty, but it is hard not to revel in all that's gone on in 24 hours.

 

[pedaling squares]

Regardless of any criminal/civil liability, my hope is that Bruyneel's status and power decreases enough that riders begin to speak about anything he may have done to push them towards PED use or to withhold opportunities from those who would not. If nothing else so it might prevent the same thing from happening to other young cyclists.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Thanks for the Reminder

I completely agree.

We shouldn't lose focus in all these latest rounds of information. One of the biggest goals here should be to curb doping and cheating, and the corruption that has gone with it, as much as possible. We can toss Armstrong in prison even, but that's not the entire picture. Not even close. Guys like JB, and Stapleton, need to pay the piper just the same.

+100
Add the executive level at USAC to the list. Maybe Betsy can run USAC. She'd have a job for the rest of her life cleaning that rats nest up. This has been a couple of days of very long overduegood news, but the kids aren't even safe enough to ride without the system making PED's available at a National level in the U.S. Not even close.

Also, did McQuaid make an appearance at ToC??? We talk about guys that would be of great interest to Law Enforcement, he's definitely one of them.

 

[hfer07]

I have the feeling that he(Bruyneel) will be the dead sentence for LA in front of the GJ-since the doping evidence pointing out at him is indisputable-I foresee a dirty tactic on LA's camp to blame JB for all the trafficking & logistics behind the PED's-just resulting in a complete battle of finger pointing between those two.

 

[D-Queued]

He avoided the Tour of Cali, the 2nd biggest race of the year for Radioshack.

...

Someone call Interpol, he's making a run for the border.

Dave.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Even more important than Bruyneel (or Buryneel if you prefer) the UCI needs to be brought in in a major way. To me it seems that the most important part of what Tyler had to say was that he corroborated Floyds story about the 2001 Tour de Suisse drug test pass that LA said he got. It would be huge if the UCI was implicated in that.

 

[danjo007]

why stop there. there are plenty of other currently active DS to string up.. dont stop at 1... do them ALL

 

[Benotti69]

why stop there. there are plenty of other currently active DS to string up.. dont stop at 1... do them ALL

+1........and the federations too.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Even more important than Bruyneel (or Buryneel if you prefer) the UCI needs to be brought in in a major way. To me it seems that the most important part of what Tyler had to say was that he corroborated Floyds story about the 2001 Tour de Suisse drug test pass that LA said he got. It would be huge if the UCI was implicated in that.

That's the important one as far as I am concerned.

Hog, Armstrong etc are just the deckchairs and if they get popped then they get replaced by Riis, Holm, Dertie and Frodo, and the whole circus repeats itself while the Titanic sails on.

We can see how the UCI is protecting Dertie who has absolutely no intention (much like Armstrong) of even pretending to be clean.

What this mustn't become is another Festina and Puerto where a lot is said about cleaning up the sport but nothing is actually done.

 

[just some guy]

That's the important one as far as I am concerned.

Hog, Armstrong etc are just the deckchairs and if they get popped then they get replaced by Riis, Holm, Dertie and Frodo, and the whole circus repeats itself while the Titanic sails on.

We can see how the UCI is protecting Dertie who has absolutely no intention (much like Armstrong) of even pretending to be clean.

What this mustn't become is another Festina and Puerto where a lot is said about cleaning up the sport but nothing is actually done.

No I think the cat is to far out of the bag to stuff it back in now....

I have a feling that the IOC will step in a say cycling your out till you clean house, the IOC has always been the UCI trump card with that gone the ASO and Giro can go it alone.

The country feds can say enough is enough and bring down the UCI current 2 heads and start again.

It probably be the death of 3 US teams . Shack, HTC and BMC and if they go Astana and a lot of the top riders of today will have to go.

This because of todays 1 second media will not stop till the job is done or cycling is dead.

The simple rule of if you have admitted to or been caught doping once in your professional life you can not have contact in the proranks-

No BMC
no HTC
No lep - trek
No Shank
No Astana
No Saxo

You folks probably know of others teams as well controlled but ex dopers.

Probably not Lampre

I think one of the french teams DS as well but can think who,

Lotto and omega pharm are going differnet ways how hard will it to get new sponsors now.

Cycling is about to go through a whole lot of pain may or maynot come out of it alive at the end .

 

[CowboyTx]

f*** Chris Carmichael too

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

No I think the cat is to far out of the bag to stuff it back in now....

I have a feling that the IOC will step in a say cycling your out till you clean house, the IOC has always been the UCI trump card with that gone the ASO and Giro can go it alone.

The country feds can say enough is enough and bring down the UCI current 2 heads and start again.

It probably be the death of 3 US teams . Shack, HTC and BMC and if they go Astana and a lot of the top riders of today will have to go.

This because of todays 1 second media will not stop till the job is done or cycling is dead.

The simple rule of if you have admitted to or been caught doping once in your professional life you can not have contact in the proranks-

No BMC
no HTC
No lep - trek
No Shank
No Astana
No Saxo

You folks probably know of others teams as well controlled but ex dopers.

Probably not Lampre

I think one of the french teams DS as well but can think who,

Lotto and omega pharm are going differnet ways how hard will it to get new sponsors now.

Cycling is about to go through a whole lot of pain may or maynot come out of it alive at the end .

My concern is that the UCI and the media are trying to make it that USP/Disco were the one bad apple and to minimise the impact on other teams and the UCI.

What is important is for 60 minutes etc to pick up on the UCI angle, pick up on the likes of Och, etc who are very nicely flying under the radar.

As I've said before, we've had so many false dawns, that I can see a situation in 3 years time where nothing has changed.

 

[hektoren]

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[sniper]

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[veganrob]

It should have been the US Postal Circus and Bruyneel was the ringmaster. There is a spot on the gallows for him for sure.

 

[Anonymous]

Even more important than Bruyneel (or Buryneel if you prefer) the UCI needs to be brought in in a major way. To me it seems that the most important part of what Tyler had to say was that he corroborated Floyds story about the 2001 Tour de Suisse drug test pass that LA said he got. It would be huge if the UCI was implicated in that.

Dislexia strikes AGAIN!!!!!

Could a brother get some help from a mod???

 

[pedaling squares]

Although I truly hate deleting posts, family should be one area where we just don't go. Let's leave the man's wife and kid out of the thread. Even though those photos are available to the public I don't think this is a place to post them and debate her attractiveness. I hope that sits well with the majority.