Campy 11 Speed

[Rupert]

Now that Campy has gone to 11 speed it seems difficult or impossible to get 10 speed components (like cogsets). I haven't done much research on why, but it seems as if they are trying to force everyone to buy their new 11 stuff, which offends me since I have lots of 10 speed Campy stuff with several years life left. Am I wrong here? I am about to convert one of my bikes to Shimano and keep the other running Campy 10 as long as my supply of parts lasts. I was a loyal Campy fan until now, but this has given me a bad feeling toward them and loyalty is a two way street. Does anybody have more info? When they went from 9 to 10 they backed off and offered 9 speed stuff for a couple more years (even groups).

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

You can get 10 speed Campy parts still, It's the 9 speed stuff that was phased out. It's true that Campy stopped making spare parts for older groups as a cost cutting measure I think. Not enough reason for me to change alliances though, If I play my cards right I'll buying no less than 2 new Campy 11s grouppos this season, one Super Record, one Athena. Plus you have to figure that adding cogs in the back has just about reached it's plateau, there's only so many you can squeeze back there without the chain looking like a piece of dental floss.

 

[Race Radio]

http://www.maestro-uk.com/

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

Now that Campy has gone to 11 speed it seems difficult or impossible to get 10 speed components (like cogsets).

That wasn't hard at all. Here ya go... http://www.biketiresdirect.com/search_results.asp?rs=p&mfg=ca&so=p&cat=ca]

Tell Dan Cheever the Mad Hungarian sent you. He'll have a good laugh.

 

[ergmonkey]

Not only can you still easily get 10-speed parts, but you can even run the new ergo-shaped hoods with your 10-speed group. I used to run a full Record 10 group; now I run the same group with new Centaur hoods. If you're not too much of a snob to put the "Centaur" label on your carbon levers (and I'll admit, it did annoy me for an hour or two...), then it's a pretty nice set-up. I've got large hands and the old hoods were always the weak point on the Record group for me. Now, I've got all of the new hand positions and brake lever shape with my old 10-speed group.

 

[Oldman]

Now that Campy has gone to 11 speed it seems difficult or impossible to get 10 speed components (like cogsets). I haven't done much research on why, but it seems as if they are trying to force everyone to buy their new 11 stuff, which offends me since I have lots of 10 speed Campy stuff with several years life left. Am I wrong here? I am about to convert one of my bikes to Shimano and keep the other running Campy 10 as long as my supply of parts lasts. I was a loyal Campy fan until now, but this has given me a bad feeling toward them and loyalty is a two way street. Does anybody have more info? When they went from 9 to 10 they backed off and offered 9 speed stuff for a couple more years (even groups).

The tech purists will hate me for this but here goes:
1. Keep the 10 speed Campy and get some spare shifter parts for repairs
2. Keep the 10 speed Campy rear derailleur, get new pulleys
3. Run Shimano for cogs, chain and get compatible cranks/chainrings. I've run FSA with the set up above.

Advantages: all the Shimano parts from cogs, chains, etc. can be purchased more cheaply and you can use Shimano compatible wheels. Any minor mis-shifting can be tuned in with your lever without a problem. It hasn't cost me a sprint win yet and you can still get 10-speed neutral support wheels when you flat in the race.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Now that Campy has gone to 11 speed it seems difficult or impossible to get 10 speed components (like cogsets). I haven't done much research on why, but it seems as if they are trying to force everyone to buy their new 11 stuff, which offends me since I have lots of 10 speed Campy stuff with several years life left. Am I wrong here? I am about to convert one of my bikes to Shimano and keep the other running Campy 10 as long as my supply of parts lasts. I was a loyal Campy fan until now, but this has given me a bad feeling toward them and loyalty is a two way street. Does anybody have more info? When they went from 9 to 10 they backed off and offered 9 speed stuff for a couple more years (even groups).

Must be talking about mailorder. Many distributors still have Campagnolo 10s(and 9s and 8s) 'stuff'. Go see a decent LBS. Campagnolo still makes 8s cogsets and that changed in 1997.

 

[erader]

The tech purists will hate me for this but here goes:
1. Keep the 10 speed Campy and get some spare shifter parts for repairs
2. Keep the 10 speed Campy rear derailleur, get new pulleys
3. Run Shimano for cogs, chain and get compatible cranks/chainrings. I've run FSA with the set up above.

Advantages: all the Shimano parts from cogs, chains, etc. can be purchased more cheaply and you can use Shimano compatible wheels. Any minor mis-shifting can be tuned in with your lever without a problem. It hasn't cost me a sprint win yet and you can still get 10-speed neutral support wheels when you flat in the race.

i pay about $25 for a shimano 9-speed cassette. i can also use sram cassettes.

ed rader

 

[Rupert]

Lbc

For some reason my LBC is finding it impossible to find Campy 10 speed cassettes. I have always been reluctant to try non-Campy or after market stuff (aside from wipperman chains) but it sounds like that's the solution.

 

[Wallace]

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/C...ive_10_Speed_Cassette_(12~13T_Up)/5360007809/

Wiggle.com. Campy Centaur 10 speed cassettes, $60.00. Twenty bucks more for 11 speed (which includes the lock ring). Anything over $80.00 and shipping is free. And I didn't even look at Total Cycling, which is probably cheaper. Lots and lots of Campy 10 speed stuff out there: it's still being manufactured, and given the demand for it, I'm sure they will continue to manufacture it.

I hate to argue against your LBS, and for spending money on the internet and even sending it out of the country, but you just found your store's weak spot. In America the distributor takes a cut, driving up the price. In Europe stores buy direct from the manufacturer--and with the relatively strong dollar now, bike stores just can't compete. So buy your bike and everything that needs to be fitted at the LBS, and the Campy parts you can install yourself (and if you can't change a cassette yourself, you've got problems beyond anything an internet forum can fix) on line.

 

[richwagmn]

Not only can you still easily get 10-speed parts, but you can even run the new ergo-shaped hoods with your 10-speed group. I used to run a full Record 10 group;

That's nice. I'm still using 9 sp shimano stuff and the hood shape is terrible. Campy and SRAM have really nailed the proper hood shape for the brifters. New shimano stuff feels better but still not as good as Campy and SRAM.

 

[buckwheat]

Probikekit and Ribble have Centaur cassettes for like 50 or 60 bucks. I live on the beach in Florida and the roads are so sandy and it rains so much my drivetrains wear out pretty quick. 2 to 300 bucks for a cassette is just insane.

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?cat=Campagnolo Cassettes

Plus use these discount codes for 5 to 15% off.

http://www.retailmenot.com/view/probikekit.com

 

[gregod]

i have a bunch of bikes and they all have campy 10. my record 10 cassette, chain and chainrings are all worn out on my race bike.

should i:
1) replace the worn out parts (record 10 is still good stuff),
2) upgrade this bike to record or super record 11 (new stuff is cool),
3) upgrade all bikes to various forms of campy 11 (i'm so anal, everything must match)?

your input would be appreciated.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Now that Campy has gone to 11 speed it seems difficult or impossible to get 10 speed components (like cogsets). I haven't done much research on why, but it seems as if they are trying to force everyone to buy their new 11 stuff, which offends me since I have lots of 10 speed Campy stuff with several years life left. Am I wrong here? I am about to convert one of my bikes to Shimano and keep the other running Campy 10 as long as my supply of parts lasts. I was a loyal Campy fan until now, but this has given me a bad feeling toward them and loyalty is a two way street. Does anybody have more info? When they went from 9 to 10 they backed off and offered 9 speed stuff for a couple more years (even groups).

Campagnolo is still making lots of 10s stuff. If you can't find it, the MO/Interweb place is the one trying to force you to do something, not Campagnolo.

Campagnolo still makes 8s cogsets for cryin'outloud and 9s cogsets...10s is NOT hard to find, unless you just look at MO. MO does not the bike market make.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

You can get 10 speed Campy parts still, It's the 9 speed stuff that was phased out. It's true that Campy stopped making spare parts for older groups as a cost cutting measure I think. Not enough reason for me to change alliances though, If I play my cards right I'll buying no less than 2 new Campy 11s grouppos this season, one Super Record, one Athena. Plus you have to figure that adding cogs in the back has just about reached it's plateau, there's only so many you can squeeze back there without the chain looking like a piece of dental floss.

9s cogsets still available and any 10s Campagnolo derailleur, for instance, works just fine with 9s shifters. 12-23, 13-26, 13-28 plentiful.

 

[veganrob]

Ochsner Int.

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

9s cogsets still available and any 10s Campagnolo derailleur, for instance, works just fine with 9s shifters. 12-23, 13-26, 13-28 plentiful.

Thanks for digging that up from 4 months ago Bustedknuckle, since then I've figured it out. Cross season is coming soon to a park near you and I'll be reusing my old 10s Chorus group on it.

 

[avanti]

I live in the USA and find prices in the USA at local bike shops lower than at bike shops in UK/Europe. The exception is when I buy sale items from a UK company located in Kendal. I asume the price differences are linked to sales taxes (VAT) and exchange rates.

 

[Hawkwood]

I live in the USA and find prices in the USA at local bike shops lower than at bike shops in UK/Europe. The exception is when I buy sale items from a UK company located in Kendal. I asume the price differences are linked to sales taxes (VAT) and exchange rates.

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I think you might be able to buy items VAT free if you live outside the European Union, not sure how you go about doing so.