It appears we have another Festina on our hands, except in Canada.
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...om-Canadian-Garneau-team-to-admit-doping.aspx
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...om-Canadian-Garneau-team-to-admit-doping.aspx
masking_agent said:It appears we have another Festina on our hands, except in Canada.
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...om-Canadian-Garneau-team-to-admit-doping.aspx![]()
Neworld said:Canada is a developed country just like its bordering nation. But, you cannot buy EPO at the pharmacy like in some European countries. I think this title is a little over the top.
What is the incidence of doping in Canada relative to the US or Europe?
And, one of those "Canadian" riders was from S. America. Doping is like Alcoholism... it knows no boundries.
NW
Polish said:Interesting.....both apology letters sound very similiar.
And both ending with "and that is all I will say on the matter"
I'm so sorry
I acted alone
Thats all I have to say
DirtyWorks said:This story has some bombs that might/might not go off]
Someone in the comments claims at least 5 riders were positive, possibly 8 because of testing at a regional event! Where in that count are the two already public? Dunno.
DirtyWorks said:One more: Mr. Garneau guarantees Agreda was the last one. The story mentions Mr. Garneau as director of said team.....
http://translate.googleusercontent....2B.htm&usg=ALkJrhjxvPPbxHzDBwzWmfrIBfemkTJ1mQ
The sad story of Geneviève Jeanson starts in Quebec at least three years ago. So, the illegal stuff has been up there for a good while. If you haven't read Ms. Jeanson's whole story, it's pretty ugly.
dougvdh said:It's worth noting that Louis Garneau (the man, not the team/company) is referring the matter of the source of the doping to police (not specific whether that's the Quebec police or the RCMP).
Mr. Garneau: "I discussed the situation yesterday with Steve Bauer (currently in Belgium with his team) and we have come to the same conclusion: we now have to go to the source and find out who the suppliers of performance enhancing drugs are, something that will involve the police over the next few weeks."
http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews.php?id=22930
MarkvW said:I remember watching a CBC program on her, leading up to the Olympics. It was so incredibly fawning. The fawning was Armstrong-like. Awhile later come the Aubut-Jeanson revelations. Aubut was an abuser and Jeanson his little puppet-girl. While emotional and physical abuse goes on, the parents are onlookers. So sick.
pleyser said:We as Canadians have gotten off relatively light in doping scandals save for Ben Johnson in the 1988 Olympics and the G. Jeanson affair. Steve Bauer is often viewed as a relatively clean rider. Ryder Hesjedal came from a mountain biking program to get decent results. Michael Barry? Maybe most Canadian riders have not progressed to the elite level where doping can make a difference.
As for the "patriotic Canadians wouldn't dope" argument, we have "esteemed" hockey personality Don Cherry who took exception with **** Pound a few years back. Pound said that doping (steriods, HGH) were common in the NHL. Of course our "good Canadian boys" wouldn't take an edge, especially if there's no testing!?!
D-Queued said:. . . Isn't there a string of emails from Steve complaining to WADA that cycling has been unfairly singled out (e.g. as compared to ice hockey)? . . .)
D-Queued said:Didn't Steve assure us, repeatedly, that there was no doping in Canadian Cycling? Or, that cycling had the most effective anti-doping system?
Isn't there a string of emails from Steve complaining to WADA that cycling has been unfairly singled out (e.g. as compared to ice hockey)?
It may not be fair to single him out.
Then again, he didn't have to make the statements. What could Garneau accomplish by contacting Steve, other than to mount a disinformation campaign?
Dave.
(P.S. Sorry Steve. I have tremendous respect for you generally. But, on this topic, less so. You could make a big difference by taking a different path.)
pleyser said:We as Canadians have gotten off relatively light in doping scandals save for Ben Johnson in the 1988 Olympics and the G. Jeanson affair. Steve Bauer is often viewed as a relatively clean rider. Ryder Hesjedal came from a mountain biking program to get decent results. Michael Barry? Maybe most Canadian riders have not progressed to the elite level where doping can make a difference.
As for the "patriotic Canadians wouldn't dope" argument, we have "esteemed" hockey personality Don Cherry who took exception with **** Pound a few years back. Pound said that doping (steriods, HGH) were common in the NHL. Of course our "good Canadian boys" wouldn't take an edge, especially if there's no testing!?!
At least 1 former NHLer disagrees with Don Cherry: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=379721pleyser said:As for the "patriotic Canadians wouldn't dope" argument, we have "esteemed" hockey personality Don Cherry who took exception with **** Pound a few years back. Pound said that doping (steriods, HGH) were common in the NHL.
bike_framed said:At least 1 former NHLer disagrees with Don Cherry: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=379721