Cervelo Cersellos Out

[will10]

i am still of the opinion that TTs should be ridden on road bikes with none of the aerodynamics clap trap that adorn TT bikes.

Your right, technology is the bane of our lives. How's that black and white TV looking?

 

[Benotti69]

Your right, technology is the bane of our lives. How's that black and white TV looking?

Dont own a TV so i wouldn't know.

But you are right the advancement of TT frames really puts an extra dimension into a sport that makes the machine more important than the athlete.

Give me better braking, better tyres for traction, saddles for comfort, better lever hoods for comfort and better frame geometry etc....but not spaceage looking frames out of a series of thunderbirds with all the BS about shaving seconds here and there blah blah..

 

[gregod]

Interesting hydraulic brakes on non-DI version.

...hydraulic brakes... /shakehead

a solution in search of a problem.

 

[BroDeal]

...hydraulic brakes... /shakehead

a solution in search of a problem.

Hey! Those brakes weigh in at 495 grams, which Slowtwitch says is "very light," and at $750 a set they are a real bargain.

 

[STODRR]

...hydraulic brakes... /shakehead

a solution in search of a problem.

I assume you still ride one of these then.

 

[gregod]

I assume you still ride one of these then.

analogy on the SAT was probably not your strong area.

improvements in technology often serve some purpose. switching to hydraulics adds weight, cost, and needless complication without concomitant performance improvement over cable brakes.

i suppose you would consider anyone a luddite for not preferring one of these over a regular helmet.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

I assume you still ride one of these then.

There really hasn't been a real innovation in cycling stuff since the mid 80s. Anything that really makes riding better, easier, more accesible to the masses.

Lever mounted, index shifting, clipless pedals, more and better knowledge in bike fit, decent triples. The rest is just new stuff, that is overly marketed, overly hyped and lots of it goes away.

As a guy at shimano once told me as I pointed to a new shimano 'thing', "what's that for?", I asked. 'It's for selling' , was his answer.

 

[STODRR]

analogy on the SAT was probably not your strong area.

And you would loose a lot of money if you bet me.

improvements in technology often serve some purpose. switching to hydraulics adds weight, cost, and needless complication without concomitant performance improvement over cable brakes.

If you took the time to read the article instead of bashing you would have seen it weights no more then dura ace brakes. All new stuff is expensive at first. As for function I quess you have never gotten grit in your barke cables and have them hard to function.

i suppose you would consider anyone a luddite for not preferring one of these over a regular helmet.

Has it been proposed as a helmet? You think I made a bad analogy, big fail

 

[STODRR]

There really hasn't been a real innovation in cycling stuff since the mid 80s. Anything that really makes riding better, easier, more accesible to the masses.

Lever mounted, index shifting, clipless pedals, more and better knowledge in bike fit, decent triples. The rest is just new stuff, that is overly marketed, overly hyped and lots of it goes away.

As a guy at shimano once told me as I pointed to a new shimano 'thing', "what's that for?", I asked. 'It's for selling' , was his answer.

Very true, and the market will decide if it stays or goes. But I am not willing to poo poo it just by a picture. If it still here in a year it might be something to look into.

 

[gregod]

And you would loose a lot of money if you bet me.

If you took the time to read the article instead of bashing you would have seen it weights no more then dura ace brakes. All new stuff is expensive at first. As for function I quess you have never gotten grit in your barke cables and have them hard to function.

Has it been proposed as a helmet? You think I made a bad analogy, big fail

judging from this response, i assume you are a non-native speaker of english.

 

[Parera]

And you would loose a lot of money if you bet me.

I'm willing to bet you are an awful speller.

 

[elapid]

It is getting ridiculous when everyone at a tri is rocking $12K+ "superbikes." Cycling went through its period of bike craziness in the 90s.

Not sure if the roadies are still not out of this phase yet. The super-bikes sell like hot cakes, as we've discussed in a previous thread, and many of us who cannot afford the latest and greatest lust after the newest gear and trends. I spend a bit of time on the Cervelo forum because I used to have an R3 (sold it because I didn't like it). Some of the forum members there are drinking the coolaid and they're drinking it by the gallons. Light weight, aero, bottom brackets, blah, blah, blah. They all sound like an ad for Cervelo.

 

[BroDeal]

Not sure if the roadies are still not out of this phase yet. The super-bikes sell like hot cakes, as we've discussed in a previous thread, and many of us who cannot afford the latest and greatest lust after the newest gear and trends. I spend a bit of time on the Cervelo forum because I used to have an R3 (sold it because I didn't like it). Some of the forum members there are drinking the coolaid and they're drinking it by the gallons. Light weight, aero, bottom brackets, blah, blah, blah. They all sound like an ad for Cervelo.

I was referring to the effect on triathlon competition and growth of the sport. The tri geeks are obsessed with buying X number of seconds off their bike time. I don't think it is healthy for the sport when a noob thinks he needs to drop more than $10K to have a shot at KQing or even to just notch a good time in his age group at a local rinky dink triathlon.

Go over to slowtwitch and they actually have tards talking about how hydraulic brakes rim will make them faster. The reasoning is astonishing, and people will believe it.

 

[elapid]

I was referring to the effect on triathlon competition and growth of the sport. The tri geeks are obsessed with buying X number of seconds off their bike time. I don't think it is healthy for the sport when a noob thinks he needs to drop more than $10K to have a shot at KQing or even to just notch a good time in his age group at a local rinky dink triathlon.

Go over to slowtwitch and they actually have tards talking about how hydraulic brakes rim will make them faster. The reasoning is astonishing, and people will believe it.

I know what you are saying. But this is how some of the forum members on the Cervelo forum are talking about road bikes (S5/R5). They're willing to drop thousands of dollars on the next reincarnation of something slightly lighter and/or more aero because it is going to buy them 5 more seconds based on wind tunnel tests and no consideration for the effects of riding in the pack, environmental conditions, etc, etc. And no doubt all in either a club ride or local rinky dink crit or road race. They don't seem to realize that some weight loss and training will get them so much further than spending thousands of dollars on the next and best bike.

 

[elapid]

Pon Holdings have now exercised their right to buy Cervelo:

http://www.cervelo.com/en_us/news-blog/company/article/cervelo-joins-pon-bicycle-group/2970/

 

[ElChingon]

Read as business as usual for Cervelo though? Unless the Holdings group has or will put up more cash for advertising/marketing?

 

[veganrob]

You would think they would have ridden that junk before buying the whole damn business. Sheesh