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Had a great Sun Tour and will be boosted by home court advantage. Hopefully Renshaw will be back in the fray by then as the main lead out man.
 
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I thought he would be the next Oscar Freire.

won about his first pro race, with Cofidis, GP Cholet - Pays de Loire in 2006 when only 21. Won a couple of times at Cofidis, and showed more than Farrar. Was top ten at Flanders this year and only 24. Has a very fast finish. This IS NOT about late 2009 with Garmin. It is on his potential he showed as a jnr and espoir that he will fulfill at Sky.

Even if the Australians sport Haussler, Davis, Mcewen, Ogrady, you can bet it will be like the azzurri with infighting and no one willing to work for anyone else. The hierarchy of the Aus team will have their work cut out. Gerrans wont give up his chances neither, and Cooke could get a big win in spring with Saxo, and be back (yeah, unlikely, but...) then there is the Columbia sprinter, Goss.

Renshaw showed 210km legs in the shorted Hamburg in 2008. Not that selective tho.

Everyone will want selection. Sure to go to a protest to the arbitration selection body for the Aussies.

But Sutton, definite smokey and chance.
 
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IMO he was disappointing at Garmin, not delivering on the promise he showed as an espior. As much as I like the Sun Tour the quality of racing is not very high at all this year, winning it was not that big a deal.
 
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Haussler or Sutton for me. I can see either winning. Non of the others has a chance unless they transform the way they ride during the 2010 season. Correct me if I am wrong but Sutton did not win the Sun Tour, Wiggins did. Mind you he could of. Just a minor technicality.
 
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Daniel Benson said:
Interesting. He'll have to justify his cause to his teammates. However if rumours are true then your team's support isn't paramount at the Worlds.

Agreed, Leadership means nothing if you don't have the legs! Especially if your team votes for the leader.
 
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CJ will need to have a good season, I don't see why he can't be there, but Australia is a bit spoiled for choice for 2010 worlds, barring injury to our riders.
 
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Galic Ho said:
Haussler or Sutton for me. I can see either winning. Non of the others has a chance unless they transform the way they ride during the 2010 season. Correct me if I am wrong but Sutton did not win the Sun Tour, Wiggins did. Mind you he could of. Just a minor technicality.
I think I see Alby Davis getting leadership for the Aus team. They luv him in the Aus set-up, and he is in big-time with brothers Stephen. Mentor and all.

But Haussler on season 2009 form, he should be hypothetical leader. Leave OGrady and Mcewen at home imo, take guys like Rogers, Hayman, and Hansen as the donkeys for the work in the first 220km.

That was hypothetical. Stand by my pick of Sutton stealing it. Just like Swift could pop up outta nowhere.
 
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blackcat said:
I think I see Alby Davis getting leadership for the Aus team. They luv him in the Aus set-up, and he is in big-time with brothers Stephen. Mentor and all.

But Haussler on season 2009 form, he should be hypothetical leader. Leave OGrady and Mcewen at home imo, take guys like Rogers, Hayman, and Hansen as the donkeys for the work in the first 220km.

That was hypothetical. Stand by my pick of Sutton stealing it. Just like Swift could pop up outta nowhere.

+1

Stephens was with Alby through ONCE, Libert Seguros and Astana. Sutton might just get in the right move which may get away. Australia hav a lot of sprint options so can put some of those guys up the road.
 
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blackcat said:
I think I see Alby Davis getting leadership for the Aus team. They luv him in the Aus set-up, and he is in big-time with brothers Stephen. Mentor and all.

But Haussler on season 2009 form, he should be hypothetical leader. Leave OGrady and Mcewen at home imo, take guys like Rogers, Hayman, and Hansen as the donkeys for the work in the first 220km.

That was hypothetical. Stand by my pick of Sutton stealing it. Just like Swift could pop up outta nowhere.

That is very similar to my thinking. Leave McEwen out and possibly O'Grady, unless he commits to slogging his **** off. I liked Gerrans for this years but not next years World Champs. If he and Cadel are on the team they should be working for Sutton or Haussler. I doubt that will ever happen (both working together for another rider). Hayman, Hansen and Rogers are great work horses and then have Cadel and Renshaw there to support the chosen rider near the end.

I think strategy at this stage is simplistic. We don't know how the season will go. If Cadel has a stellar early season he may just rock up and work for the team. Gerrans might do the same. On the contrary, if they blow their early season they may rock up seeking redemption. If management play their cards right I can only see the Belgians, Italians or Spanish beating us in Geelong. Only countries with enough diversity to pull it off. I wouldn't be concerned about Cav and the Poms in the slightest. They can't win on this course. Germans might pull off a surprise or the Russians. That is it.
 
Galic Ho said:
That is very similar to my thinking. Leave McEwen out and possibly O'Grady, unless he commits to slogging his **** off. I liked Gerrans for this years but not next years World Champs. If he and Cadel are on the team they should be working for Sutton or Haussler. I doubt that will ever happen (both working together for another rider). Hayman, Hansen and Rogers are great work horses and then have Cadel and Renshaw there to support the chosen rider near the end.

I think strategy at this stage is simplistic. We don't know how the season will go. If Cadel has a stellar early season he may just rock up and work for the team. Gerrans might do the same. On the contrary, if they blow their early season they may rock up seeking redemption. If management play their cards right I can only see the Belgians, Italians or Spanish beating us in Geelong. Only countries with enough diversity to pull it off. I wouldn't be concerned about Cav and the Poms in the slightest. They can't win on this course. Germans might pull off a surprise or the Russians. That is it.

I know you colonies have serious abandonment issues, but seriously?
 
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Galic Ho said:
That is very similar to my thinking. Leave McEwen out and possibly O'Grady, unless he commits to slogging his **** off. I liked Gerrans for this years but not next years World Champs. If he and Cadel are on the team they should be working for Sutton or Haussler. I doubt that will ever happen (both working together for another rider). Hayman, Hansen and Rogers are great work horses and then have Cadel and Renshaw there to support the chosen rider near the end.

I think strategy at this stage is simplistic. We don't know how the season will go. If Cadel has a stellar early season he may just rock up and work for the team. Gerrans might do the same. On the contrary, if they blow their early season they may rock up seeking redemption. If management play their cards right I can only see the Belgians, Italians or Spanish beating us in Geelong. Only countries with enough diversity to pull it off. I wouldn't be concerned about Cav and the Poms in the slightest. They can't win on this course. Germans might pull off a surprise or the Russians. That is it.

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If mcewen is going to lead then he will have to show some serious form throughout the year. Sutton could be used in a late move as he would be hard to be beaten in a sprint. Australian have a lot of options on this course. I personally think they would go in favourites with Italy and Belgium...

Are you an Aussie Galic Ho?
 
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If mcewen is going to lead then he will have to show some serious form throughout the year. Sutton could be used in a late move as he would be hard to be beaten in a sprint. Australian have a lot of options on this course. I personally think they would go in favourites with Italy and Belgium...

Are you an Aussie Galic Ho?

Considering my XBox Live gamer tag is Aussie Galic Ho, that should answer your question. Born in NSW, lived here my entire life.

Seeing as I'm too lazy to reply to another thread. You were right about Liggett and Keenan at the worlds. He was a hypocrite, but for once he was correct to pull Matt up. Sad (for viewers) he doesn't have that level of self control when his darling dances on the pedals and his tongue starts flapping.

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I know you colonies have serious abandonment issues, but seriously?

I didn't elaborate. I respect the talent of the English/British team (you shouldn't be allowed to unite separate nations for worlds, unfair and you'd loose Cav, haha) but be honest. The teams I mentioned, the favourites, Italy, Belgium, Australia, Spanish and the Germans all have well rounded one day specialists and quality guys who can sprint very well. In a bunch finish, if Cav is there, given his form for the past two seasons, the money is on him to beat everyone. He will not be allowed to be in any group near the end as I suspect a few riders (5 or so) will be off the front within the last two laps and they will fight for the win. Cav cannot be anywhere near them, because he is potent. Hence he will be marked more than anyone else. Take into consideration also his form at the end of the season. Will he be good enough? We'll know in 9 months or so if he is a prospect, but as I said, it won't matter, he only wins if all the major teams I mentioned stuff up on a colossal scale.
 
Australia will at least have an extremely strong team. They have great sprinters in Mark Renshaw, Allan Davis, Robbie McEwen (probably too old though), Sutton and possibly Haussler, and they also have people who can cover the late breakaways such as Simon Gerrans and Cadel Evans.

With that said, I highly doubt it will be a bunch sprint as no one except from GB is interested in that, so I think either Simon Gerrans (can follow attacks in the hills and has a decent sprint in a small group) or Haussler (excellent downhill, could also be able to follow attacks in the hill and will obviously beat almost anyone in a sprint) will have the best chance of winning.
 
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Galic Ho, no doubt Cav will now win. Underestimate him at your peril. He made the selection at San Remo, over the Poggio and Cipressa while Boonen went backwards. That should answer you a few questions.

Cav never ceases to amaze.

Ofcourse, Tommeke had a medical plan timed to peak for the spring and Flanders and Roubaix, and Cav had his peaking on the day.

Dont be surprised if Cav makes the Museeuw type transformation for the spring classics in Flanders (+Roubaix) in the near future.
 
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Cavendish's best shot at a Worlds is likely to be 2011 Copenhagen - in 2010, who know, maybe they will try to bluff it, make it seem like theyre working for Cavendish, but instead take advantage of the fact that a rider like Swift (so long as he sorts out his team and has a good season) may be more able to cope in a smaller group sprint after a relatively hilly course (See: Pais Vasco this year)

Sutton is a good outside bet though - he should be Sky's leading sprinter this year which could give him the chance to develop. He and Davis should make the Australian team at least, Gerrans and Evans will be there, probably O'Grady too. So long as they dont make the mistake of being too nostalgic and allowing McEwen to be their team leader.
 
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Really? How do you figure him being ahead of Henderson?

well henderson is captain for TdU.. i think that says it all over who has priority.. i expected sutton to be leading the team for that one..

May be that DB and the rest of the team know more about Henderson.. It may also be that Henderson is going to be in australia much earlier and is racing before the TDU for mazda as well so should be in better form..
 
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Sum_of_Marc said:
, probably O'Grady too. So long as they dont make the mistake of being too nostalgic and allowing McEwen to be their team leader.

Unlikely O'Grady and Robbie will work together on the same team......... unless some scores have been settled.
 

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