Hugh Januss said:To me this prompts the question how far down does doping extend.
pedaling squares said:I was going to write about how, if you have to dope to win a Cat 2 race, maybe pro cycling ain't your thing. Then I remembered Landis 2006 vs Landis 2009. Maybe this kid had a future.....
Sprocket01 said:I don't think an old fashioned steroid course would have changed his performance dramatically. It's a surprise to see it really. The powerful anti estrogen drugs he was found positive for would slow him down.
BikeCentric said:Actually "old fashioned steriods" would have a huge effect at that level. Most people in that pack are on a very similar level and it comes down to who has more kick at the end of the race. Roids will give you that kick. There are a lot of guys in the amateur and semi-pro packs who are very strong pack fodder - they will never get dropped because they are aerobic beasts but they also rarely place because they have no kick or sprint at the end of a race.
Sprocket01 said:I maintain that its of marginal help to a cyclist. If he used it for recovery in a multi stage race, then it's slightly different, but given he was taking PCT drugs this means he did a proper cycle, probably lasting 4 to 6 weeks. Maybe less. That probably would have slowed him down during the cycle as it ups your blood pressure and holds water in your joints. I don't think it would have changed his performance too much - I bet he knows that now as well. That's why you don't hear about cyclists doing bodybuilding drugs in the same way that bodybuilders do.
So far few are tested, but there are some European Pro's that can barely make a living, and can't do anything but ride. They are dependent of banned substances to get around.karlboss said:I think those who only ride in club races, all are clean. Some riders interclub will be using something. Even at the lowest levels. Very few. I met a guy, rode with him a little, who admitted to me he was using blood boosters and was going to get back into competitions. Not particularly flash when i rode with him, maybe b or c open road in oz.
battery89 said:He was using 'typical' PCT drugs, however they can also be used (on their own, without prior use of a steroid cycle) to boost natural test/epitest production to the upper limits. Such a boost and maintenance in test would probably help with recovery from harder training sessions, allowing for more intense sessions to be completed more frequently.
This is what I suspect he was using them for.. Although I am not too sure how popular this practice is.