Could Marianne Vos ride for a men ProTour team one day?

[miguelvazpinto]

About this, what do you think?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vos-to-ride-mens-races-in-coming-years

 

[Descender]

She'd get along very well with Rojas and Benatti.

 

[Benotti69]

she'd need to up her levels of 'training'.....

 

[jens_attacks]

yes if they'd ride in a goddamn kitchen

 

[jonjungel]

If she's good enough for a WT team, I say go for it. She's won just about everything on the women's circuit, so I can understand she could use some new challenges to keep her motivation.

In all likelyhood she will not be able to get any results, but I have no doubts she can be a good helper in hilly races.

My opinion is that if anyone is good enough to compete amongst the best, they should be given the opportunity, regardless of their sex.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

maria luisa calle used to ride in the male peloton in colombia in the earliest beginning of colombian season for preparation of wc track. she used to do quite well for a woman but last time was 6 years ago I think

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

If she's good enough for a WT team, I say go for it. She's won just about everything on the women's circuit, so I can understand she could use some new challenges to keep her motivation.

In all likelyhood she will not be able to get any results, but I have no doubts she can be a good helper in hilly races.

My opinion is that if anyone is good enough to compete amongst the best, they should be given the opportunity, regardless of their sex.

yes that would be best just as in carracing

 

[Altitude]

This is a really stupid idea. First of all she wouldn't stand a chance physically, secondly nobody in the peloton would respect her - that may be unfair but it's true none the less.

 

[Forunculo]

This is a really stupid idea. First of all she wouldn't stand a chance physically, secondly nobody in the peloton would respect her - that may be unfair but it's true none the less.

If she wouldn't stand a chance physically has to be proved on the road, on the second it's a problem of the peloton not her

 

[Ruudz0r]

Last year in a cyclo cross race the woman started 1 minute before the 14-15 year old boys (dont know how this category is called in English), and a 15 year old boy (Mathieu van der Poel) finished in front of her with quite some margin so he gained more then a minute on her.

So no way she could ride with the pro's on the road.

 

[just some guy]

Last year in a cyclo cross race the woman started 1 minute before the 14-15 year old boys (dont know how this category is called in English), and a 15 year old boy (Mathieu van der Poel) finished in front of her with quite some margin so he gained more then a minute on her.

So no way she could ride with the pro's on the road.

I recon if allowed she could sit in the peloton on a normal day

 

[User Guide]

jack(jill)of all trades....

I have no doubt Vos could beat Theo Bos up the Stelvio(or over a sleeping policeman) no doubt shed out sprint(and think)Frandy Schleck and out TT Jauquim Rodriguez.However shed be in the bottomn third of every facet of riding in the peleton and therefore of Zero use too a Pro mens team.
I am also not convinced its good PR for womens cycling,what its so poor the top woman is tired of gubbing everyone so has too race men?
Besides she only has 1 world or Olympic gold too show for all her dominace on the road.There are a couple of strong teams this year including AA drink getting garmins ridiers,I expect no love lost between 2 dutch teams.

Ps having said all that she is an awesome rider and a credit too cycling

 

[Alpechraxler]

I'm not sure if the current UCI President would even allow her to start.

 

[The Hitch]

maria luisa calle used to ride in the male peloton in colombia in the earliest beginning of colombian season for preparation of wc track. she used to do quite well for a woman but last time was 6 years ago I think

Great story. THanks for that.

 

[FignonLeGrand]

Last year in a cyclo cross race the woman started 1 minute before the 14-15 year old boys (dont know how this category is called in English), and a 15 year old boy (Mathieu van der Poel) finished in front of her with quite some margin so he gained more then a minute on her.

So no way she could ride with the pro's on the road.

Well presuming that is the son of Adri (?) so might be a little better than average 15yo. Adri van der Poel was a monster in cyclocross.

 

[FignonLeGrand]

This is a really stupid idea. First of all she wouldn't stand a chance physically, secondly nobody in the peloton would respect her - that may be unfair but it's true none the less.

ah typical sexist comment, how do you know peloton would accept her. They have Mandy Shleck

 

[Ruudz0r]

Well presuming that is the son of Adri (?) so might be a little better than average 15yo. Adri van der Poel was a monster in cyclocross.

Yes he is the son of Adri and Mathieu is currently dominating but still getting beaten by a 15 year old boy (and pretty damn hard) will also mean she has no chanche with the PRO man on the road.

 

[Kwibus]

She was tested by Rabobank just like they test the man.

She puts out 6.6kg/watts which we all know is quite impressive. Conclusion of the trainer is that she will most likely out climb the sprinters and cobbled riders of Rabobank, but then again she wouldn't be able to follow them on their specialties.
I'm not 100% sure about this, but with 6.6kg/watts it's certain that she can climb really well.

They also did an test on the bike trainer which gets harder every 3 minutes. She managed to hold on for 33 minutes which not every man in the Rabobank team was able to do.

She has an extraordinary ability and doesn't really get challenged in woman cycling atm. Allthough 5 2nd places at the WC might proof otherwise, but that's more of an exception.

Last year during Olympias Tour she rode the TT 1 minute slower than Luke Durbride who won the TT. It was an 12.1k TT so 1 minute is pretty much if you consider that Olympias Tour is races by U23 riders.
She would've ended 56th if she actually participated.

http://www.wielerland.nl/index.php?option=com_database&c=u&sc=1&id=24462&Itemid=242

Here is the result of that TT. She rode a time of 15:54 on the same course. I don't know if the circumstances were the same.


Edit: I just read that Luke Durbridge won the Australian TT title. Not bad 1 minute slower compared to the Aussie TT champ

 

[Ruudz0r]

I have no doubt Vos could beat Theo Bos up the Stelvio(or over a sleeping policeman) no doubt shed out sprint(and think)Frandy Schleck and out TT Jauquim Rodriguez.However shed be in the bottomn third of every facet of riding in the peleton and therefore of Zero use too a Pro mens team.
I am also not convinced its good PR for womens cycling,what its so poor the top woman is tired of gubbing everyone so has too race men?
Besides she only has 1 world or Olympic gold too show for all her dominace on the road.There are a couple of strong teams this year including AA drink getting garmins ridiers,I expect no love lost between 2 dutch teams.

Ps having said all that she is an awesome rider and a credit too cycling

No way on some points for example she could not out TT JRod

Marianne Vos on the Worlds TT: course length: 27.8 and flat: avg 43.86 km/h
Jrod Giro d'Italia stage 21: course length: 26 km and pretty flat: avg 48.07 km/h

 

[Kwibus]

No way on some points for example she could not out TT JRod

Marianne Vos on the Worlds TT: course length: 27.8 and flat: avg 43.86 km/h
Jrod Giro d'Italia stage 21: course length: 26 km and pretty flat: avg 48.07 km/h

That's a big difference indeed.

 

[Altitude]

ah typical sexist comment, how do you know peloton would accept her. They have Mandy Shleck

Yeah I'm so sexist. There's a reason men and women compete separately. What about men who aren't good enough to compete at the highest level - should they be able to race with the women so they can be competitive? Don't think so.

If men and women competed together there would be VERY few, if any, professional female athletes. Fact

 

[Michele]

She was tested by Rabobank just like they test the man.

She puts out 6.6kg/watts which we all know is quite impressive. Conclusion of the trainer is that she will most likely out climb the sprinters and cobbled riders of Rabobank, but then again she wouldn't be able to follow them on their specialties.
I'm not 100% sure about this, but with 6.6kg/watts it's certain that she can climb really well.

They also did an test on the bike trainer which gets harder every 3 minutes. She managed to hold on for 33 minutes which not every man in the Rabobank team was able to do.

She has an extraordinary ability and doesn't really get challenged in woman cycling atm. Allthough 5 2nd places at the WC might proof otherwise, but that's more of an exception.

Last year during Olympias Tour she rode the TT 1 minute slower than Luke Durbride who won the TT. It was an 12.1k TT so 1 minute is pretty much if you consider that Olympias Tour is races by U23 riders.
She would've ended 56th if she actually participated.

http://www.wielerland.nl/index.php?option=com_database&c=u&sc=1&id=24462&Itemid=242

Here is the result of that TT. She rode a time of 15:54 on the same course. I don't know if the circumstances were the same.

Are you sure these numbers are correct?

 

[TheEnoculator]

There's no doubt that Vos is the most talented female cyclist in the world right now, so I personally would fully support her on riding men's races. She'd learn so much about endurance riding 200+ km races day in and day out, keeping a mid-40's km/h average. Through that I think she'd win the women road worlds more consistently.

Having said that, It's no secret that Pat McQuaid doesn't even support minimum wages for women cyclists, so I highly doubt he'd let her ride with the men.

 

[theyoungest]

No way on some points for example she could not out TT JRod

Marianne Vos on the Worlds TT: course length: 27.8 and flat: avg 43.86 km/h
Jrod Giro d'Italia stage 21: course length: 26 km and pretty flat: avg 48.07 km/h

Luke Durbridge rode the Worlds with an average of 49 km/h, I guess he's hardly better than Rodriguez

Apples and oranges. Also, where did you read that story on Vos and the junior race? I've read it before, but I think it was in one of your posts.

Are you sure these numbers are correct?

The numbers are correct, but we don't know if maybe the protocol is slightly different for the women. Could be.

 

[Kwibus]

Are you sure these numbers are correct?

Pretty sure.

I've read it in the newspaper today. Unfortunately on ad.nl they only have a small part of it online and not the entire article.
And the paper itself is not mine, not that it would matter because I don't have a scanner anyways