Does Hog have a future at RadioShack Nissan Treck Cycling or in cycling at all?

Nov 24, 2010
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USADA are pressing forward.

Mr Johan Bruyneel
Team Manager RadioShack Nissan Treck Cycling Team

Allegations listed by USADA are

1: possession
2: trafficking
3: administration and/or attempted administration
4: assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, covering up, and other complicity
5: agravating circumstances

"With respect to Mr Bruyneel, numerous riders will testify that Mr Bruyneel gave to them and/or encouraged them to use doping products and/or prohibited methods, including EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, hGH, and cortisone during
the period from 1999 through 2007.

Riders and other witnesses will also testify that Bruyneel worked actively to conceal rule violations by himself and others through the period from 1999 through the present"

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/armstrongcharging0613.pdf
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This appears as a very serious list of allegations.

Is this new territory - ie an Anti-Doping authority going after a DS/manager and team doctors?

Hog has stepped down from TDF duties.

Did the team executive management issue the directive to step down and let him spin the announcement?

If he did go to the TDF, would some French tifosi hurl rotten tomatoes at him?

Behind the scenes, is there a possibility he will still be pulling the strings at the TDF?

Will major sponsors insist he be released or will they turn a blind eye?

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All these questions lead up to the main gist of the thread:

Does Hog have a future at RadioShack Nissan Treck Cycling Team or in cycling in any capacity?
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Jun 18, 2012
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Would depend entirely on the verdict - but I'd suggest if found guilty as he likely should be, he'd be persona non grata everywhere.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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The Hog has no future in cycling. Even if someone is willing to ignore his sanction it is hard to ignore the chaos he brings to his teams, riders, and sponsors and his inability to build a team that wins races
 
Jun 21, 2012
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Johan Bruyneel's future participation in his current position is presently hanging on a thread. And if proven guilty of the charges listed, he deserves nothing other than a lifetime ban from the sport, and justifiably so.
 
May 27, 2012
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From today's live commentary:

"As Robert Millar put it, Indurain "out-psyched Rominger by racing on a day when he didn't need a skinsuit." Only one Johan Bruyneel could follow Indurain over the top of the climb, and he sat on the Spaniard all the way to Liège, before cheekily coming around him to take the stage even though he was already assured of the yellow jersey. An early manifestation of the "you might as well win" philosophy. Of course, having stretched the validity of that coarse maxim to (beyond?) its acceptable limits as a directeur sportif, Bruyneel is a notable absentee from this year's Tour de France..."

Spot on! Thanks Barry!
 
Race Radio said:
The Hog has no future in cycling. Even if someone is willing to ignore his sanction it is hard to ignore the chaos he brings to his teams, riders, and sponsors and his inability to build a team that wins races without an organized doping program and a criminal relationship with the UCI.

Fixed that for ya ;).

Speaking of Bruyneel, will he have to rewrite his book and change the title to "We might as well cheat, dope and intimidate?"
 
Jun 21, 2012
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Berzin said:
without an organized doping program and a criminal relationship with the UCI
It sounds even better in these words;, "without an organized, systematic doping program, and a covered up criminal relationship with the highly CORRUPT UCI"
 
May 19, 2012
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Cloxxki said:
Cycling is odd that way. He might end up building a very successful bike brand bearing just his name. A sub-brand of Trek? Why not.
This is a joke? Correct?

Cancellera is riding Trek's Domane in the road stages which is a huge endorsement for Trek's biggest road bike initiative in years. I think Burke is an idiot for the LeMond fiasco, but he's not stupid enough to have any relationship with the Hog, is he?
 
Mar 10, 2009
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I can see him out in the USA doing a USPS/Disco groupie tour and setting up a consulting gig in the office next to Livingstons
 
May 26, 2010
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I actually see him in China running their cycling program with a certain Italian after this is over.
 
May 27, 2012
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Actually, just had a realization: The socks were an idea stolen from heroin junkies too. They just took long sleeves and made them long socks. Noting new under the sun. Nothing new.
 

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whenever I see a pic of him, I think, now there's a guy who could run an Eastern European nightclub syndicate.
 
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mastersracer said:
whenever I see a pic of him, I think, now there's a guy who could run an Eastern European nightclub syndicate.
Unsurprisingly, there are quite a few experiences that JB has had already which would make for an easy transition.
 
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ElChingon said:
I can see him out in the USA doing a USPS/Disco groupie tour and setting up a consulting gig in the office next to Livingstons
Except that after USADA revelations become common knowledge; Lance won't: a)have the reason to keep Kevin quiet b)won't have the money to pay his rent anymore.
 
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mastersracer said:
whenever I see a pic of him, I think, now there's a guy who could run an Eastern European nightclub syndicate.
When he and Lance were seriously attempting to buy a chunk of the Tour by courting investors ASO must have thought the same thing...
 
Jeremiah said:
This is a joke? Correct?

Cancellera is riding Trek's Domane in the road stages which is a huge endorsement for Trek's biggest road bike initiative in years. I think Burke is an idiot for the LeMond fiasco, but he's not stupid enough to have any relationship with the Hog, is he?
I believe he owns some stocks from Trek

To the question of his near future? actually he might as well do OK, as long as he stays away from USA territory....(sadly but possible)
 
Race Radio said:
The Hog has no future in cycling. Even if someone is willing to ignore his sanction it is hard to ignore the chaos he brings to his teams, riders, and sponsors and his inability to build a team that wins races
He wouldn't be able to work in an official capacity with a UCI-registered team if he was found guilty and banned, even if not for life, since he's accused of anti-doping violations occuring as recently as present-day. According to UCI:

"1.1.006 1. Federations shall issue licences according to such criteria as they may determine.

They shall be responsible for monitoring compliance with these criteria. Before the licence is issued, the licence holder and the national federation must ensure inter alia that the licence holder is adequately insured against accidents and civil responsibility in every country where he practices competitive cycle sport or training throughout the year for which the
licence is issued.

2. No licence to participate in the sport as Staff under clause 1.1.010 (general manager, team manager, coach, doctor, paramedical assistant, mechanic, driver, riders’ agent or other function as specified on the licence) shall be granted to a person who has been found by an appropriate body to have violated as an athlete the UCI’s Anti-Doping Rules or the anti-doping rules of any other organisation.
However a licence may be granted if all three of the following conditions are fulfilled:
(1) the person concerned committed a violation only once,
(2) the said violation was not sanctioned with an ineligibility for two years or more, and
(3) five years have elapsed between the moment of the violation and the first day of the year for which the licence is granted.
Furthermore, no licence to participate in the sport as a staff member under clause 1.1.010 shall be granted to a person who has been found by a court of law or other competent body to have been guilty of facts which can reasonably be considered to be equivalent to a violation of the UCI’s Anti Doping Rules and who was a medical doctor at the time of such facts.

This clause applies in case of violations committed as from 1st July 2011. "

I miss cycling as my "work."
 

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