Does Taylor Phinney still hate doperz?

[blackcat]

Wonder what Taylor Phinney's opinion is of Vino now?

 

[issoisso]

He was a hypocrite. He's still a hypocrite. No change.

 

[Roland Rat]

No tweetage yet. I might ask him...

 

[armstrong4ever]

Envious people, innocent until proven guilty

 

[samb01]

He was a hypocrite. He's still a hypocrite. No change.

Hmm. If only things were so simple.

Recommended reading: "Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts"

 

[issoisso]

Hmm. If only things were so simple.

Recommended reading: "Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts"

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. But it's a fact. He's a hypocrite.

 

[joy118118]

USA boys believe LA is clean and Vino is dirty.

It will never change until media change.

 

[Spare Tyre]

What I don't understand about Taylor Phinney's outburst against dopers is that he has a father who must know all, or at least something, about it. Don't you think his dad would have sketched out the realities of professional cycling?

 

[flicker]

What I don't understand about Taylor Phinney's outburst against dopers is that he has a father who must know all, or at least something, about it. Don't you think his dad would have sketched out the realities of professional cycling?

Chances are Taylor Phinneys' naive. I think the same as Greg LeMond was naive until he suspected people were doping. I think that was 1992.

 

[TRDean]

Chances are Taylor Phinneys' naive. I think the same as Greg LeMond was naive until he suspected people were doping. I think that was 1992.

I agree totally!! I give Taylor a pass...he is a young man...and I'm sure he is growing up quickly.

As I recall, back when Taylor won the Junior WC time trial his dad actually talked with Greg LeMond about doping. The crux of the conversation revolved around what did Davis think about his son going into a profession with the doping issues....of course Phinney senior was concerned. This is when Taylor was still in the Garmin system...it wasn't long afterword that Taylor switched to Livestrong. It is a cruel world...and there are kids on the U23 team that I hope come through this OK. I like being involved in young men and womens cycling and I understand they have dreams and preconceived notions....

 

[Anonymous]

i think its reasonable to ask taylor if he wants to clarify his position that "he hates dopers though"

 

[Boeing]

Young man in a Twitter age leads to posting dogmatic statements which proves nothing of ones character. Short soundbites are dogmatic in and of themselves regardless

Here come the morality police trying to hold people accountable for 7 words on a hand held...

crotchwaffle, did you pick up Sarah Palins book?

 

[BikeCentric]

This shows that Taylor is an Armstrong hater who loves cancer.

 

[La Vie Claire]

His parents Davis & Connie Carpenter were both dopers and he loves them, so he must love Vino. Just a careless a twit by a young man.

 

[scribe]

USA boys believe LA is clean and Vino is dirty.

It will never change until media change.

Very few in these parts are that naive. Vino ****ed up and got caught, yet comes back with the same physical ability. Hmmm.

 

[blackcat]

can someone rustle up the "Dopers Suck" cap TP wore at the 2009 Track Cycling Worlds, it will be great for posterity that photo. I think he posted it on his twitter, or someone elses, perhaps Velonews had it. CN did not. Dont think TP had a twitter account as of March 2009. Livestrong was not yet going, or was it. May have been.

Few things stand out for young TP, some tweets about how StrongArm had the perfect house and his wonder at the material riches of StrongArm.

 

[Roland Rat]

Taylor tweeted a message of support to "the big boss" last night. Very disappointing. Hope he doesn't start crying when his entire career is tainted by a link with Armstrong. No-one will believe his achievements are his own.

 

[Echoes]

I know 19 year old guys who were much more mature and clear-minded than he is.

 

[Cobblestones]

Taylor tweeted a message of support to "the big boss" last night. Very disappointing. Hope he doesn't start crying when his entire career is tainted by a link with Armstrong. No-one will believe his achievements are his own.

What a muppet. Likely juiced, too.

 

[pedaling squares]

I know 19 year old guys who were much more mature and clear-minded than he is.

There are younger men who own their own businesses, manage families, and lead men into war. I can't stand the "poor young kid" notion. This guy grew up in cycling, he's no babe in the woods. He has more time in this sport than many pros a decade older than he. His lack of maturity is not due only to age, it's due to his acceptance of certain rules for certain riders.

 

[joe_papp]

mature?

I know 19 year old guys who were much more mature and clear-minded than he is.

Jesus, this kid (below) is more mature and clear-minded than Phinney (and he's got what looks like four banana clips taped together!):

 

[pedaling squares]

Jesus, this kid (below) is more mature and clear-minded than Phinney (and he's got what looks like four banana clips taped together!):

Young man's ready to take on the haters!

But if he fired that rifle birds would start falling from the sky and his target would stand unscathed in front of him.

 

[Echoes]

What's going on, here?

Is it the normal way to do in North America to quote someone and pretend to strongly disagree with him while what he says is exactly the same**? My post is quite clear (I've re-read it to check if there was no typing mistakes !!!).

It was a reaction against earlier posts on this thread of guys who excused the young kid because of his age, which I found staggering. I've befriended with riders who weren't older at the time and they have kept learning me things about the cycling world, particularly in Belgian, with no illusion whatsoever.


**Not exactly because my love for black humour doesn't go quite that far as to laugh about child soldiers ...

 

[pedaling squares]

What's going on, here?

Is it the normal way to do in North America to quote someone and pretend to strongly disagree with him while what he says is exactly the same**? My post is quite clear (I've re-read it to check if there was no typing mistakes !!!).

It was a reaction against earlier posts on this thread of guys who excused the young kid because of his age, which I found staggering. I've befriended with riders who weren't older at the time and they have kept learning me things about the cycling world, particularly in Belgian, with no illusion whatsoever.


**Not exactly because my love for black humour doesn't go quite that far as to laugh about child soldiers ...

Uh...... if you mean me, I was agreeing with you. Quoting you doesn't mean the gloves are coming off and the jersey's being pulled over your head (a North American way to disagree openly). Quoting you can also be a way of showing support for your point.

And IMO, child soldier = tragedy. That photo = a funny way to look at a tragedy.

 

[Father Jack]

Young man's ready to take on the haters!

But if he fired that rifle birds would start falling from the sky and his target would stand unscathed in front of him.

Look closely - is that a yellow wrist band?