Hey, Hey!Personally as long as it's not Kirby commentating he can say what he likes.
Although to give Kirby credit he is rather better at making things up.
Hey, Hey!Personally as long as it's not Kirby commentating he can say what he likes.
Although to give Kirby credit he is rather better at making things up.
This made me laugh.Personally as long as it's not Kirby commentating he can say what he likes.
Although to give Kirby credit he is rather better at making things up.
The Austrians should definitely consider doing their NCs in the middle of the night.Right, so I'm going to assume that the various races on the schedule in Ballarat later this weeks are the Australian national championships, and not - as my ES Player wants me to believe - the Austrian.
In Australia?The Austrians should definitely consider doing their NCs in the middle of the night.
I think the Aussies would take issue with Ballarat being moved to Austria.No, in Austria ofc.
Those are just the races on which Jose Been said she in commenting. The GCN schedule lists of the WT races (at least through March, I didn't look farther) plus a whole bunch of other races like Andalucía, Algarve, Saudi Tour, the new stage race in Galicia, KBK, Milano-Torino and probably a few more that I forgot. I assume all will be on ES except possibly a few smaller ones GCN/ESPlayer only.I hope that this is commentary team B, not that all the rights to WT races have been lost![]()
I think it depends on who is commentating. There was one guy on Danish Eurosport who did a few races in 2019, and he also insisted on doing that. I remember one finale that included Valverde and Urán and he insisted on throwing an Alejandro and a Rigoberto in every time with correct pronunciation which was just insanely annoying to listen to because it made it take forever to say their names.Question: I've noticed on Eurosport/GCN that riders are almost always referred to by first and last name, while in the US, riders are usually referred to only by last name. I was watching cyclocross this morning, and all throughout the race the announcers were referring to: Marianne Vos, Lucinda Brand, and Puck Pieterse . . . every time. In the US they would be introduced that way, but during the race it would be Vos, Brand, and Pieterse. In the NBC coverage of racers, last names are the norm. Am I right about this, or am I out to lunch? if so, is this a UK style, broadly European, or what? Any ideas why?
In Germany there is often a difference between men and women. Men are often only called by their last name, while for women both names are used. Don't know whether that's similar in the UK.Question: I've noticed on Eurosport/GCN that riders are almost always referred to by first and last name, while in the US, riders are usually referred to only by last name. I was watching cyclocross this morning, and all throughout the race the announcers were referring to: Marianne Vos, Lucinda Brand, and Puck Pieterse . . . every time. In the US they would be introduced that way, but during the race it would be Vos, Brand, and Pieterse. In the NBC coverage of racers, last names are the norm. Am I right about this, or am I out to lunch? if so, is this a UK style, broadly European, or what? Any ideas why?
Well, sometimes they have to use both names, otherwise, it could get rather confusing.Question: I've noticed on Eurosport/GCN that riders are almost always referred to by first and last name, while in the US, riders are usually referred to only by last name. I was watching cyclocross this morning, and all throughout the race the announcers were referring to: Marianne Vos, Lucinda Brand, and Puck Pieterse . . . every time. In the US they would be introduced that way, but during the race it would be Vos, Brand, and Pieterse. In the NBC coverage of racers, last names are the norm. Am I right about this, or am I out to lunch? if so, is this a UK style, broadly European, or what? Any ideas why?
And suddenly there was a great influx of commentators wanting to use cordless equipment.Use of forenames only, or nicknames, should be summarily dealt with by stranglig the commentator with his/her own microphone cord.
Hardly the point...Well, sometimes they have to use both names, otherwise, it could get rather confusing.
"Yates attacks! But Yates follows. Yates just cannot shake off Yates."
Commentated by Sean Yates.
What if the commentator knows the rider personally? I don't think it's "off" when Rolf Sørensen mentions many of the Danish riders by first name.Use of forenames only, or nicknames, should be summarily dealt with by stranglig the commentator with his/her own microphone cord.
Well, my point is that there isn't really a set convention. Sometimes, it's just personal preferences. Sometimes, there's a practical reason.Hardly the point...
I’d prefer professional distance and a greater degree of formality.What if the commentator knows the rider personally? I don't think it's "off" when Rolf Sørensen mentions many of the Danish riders by first name.
I think you might be right there. I'll keep an ear out for this during the season.In Germany there is often a difference between men and women. Men are often only called by their last name, while for women both names are used. Don't know whether that's similar in the UK.
At least in some cultures women in general have more distinguishable forenames than men, which in itself could lead to what appears as gender discrimination.I'm not necessarily against using the forename every once in a while. Like when we're in the middle of a big attack or the finale of a race and an italian commentator says "dai Vincenzo". Might be too personal and too chauvinistic for someone, but I'm ok with it since sports is about emotions too.
That said, it shouldn't be the norm and more than anything there shouldn't be a difference between men and women. Too often in Italy popular women are called by their forename (like they were a cute little friend), while the same doesn't apply for popular men.
Agree, but I think the root lies already in everyday life. At least here it's very normal among boys to call one or the other by their surnames or a form of it. Like Pascal Ackermann "Ackes" has probably been called that already in school. Or "Schachi" Schachmann. Samuel Höfler (don't think he exists) might be referred to as "Höfler". But very few girls or boys would call Elisa Höfler "Höfler" at school, they would make it Elisa or Eli or Lisa or whatever.I'm not necessarily against using the forename every once in a while. Like when we're in the middle of a big attack or the finale of a race and an italian commentator says "dai Vincenzo". Might be too personal and too chauvinistic for someone, but I'm ok with it since sports is about emotions too.
That said, it shouldn't be the norm and more than anything there shouldn't be a difference between men and women. Too often in Italy popular women are called by their forename (like they were a cute little friend), while the same doesn't apply for popular men.
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