Commentary on TNT and other WB brands

[Armchair Cyclist]

What if the commentator knows the rider personally? I don't think it's "off" when Rolf Sørensen mentions many of the Danish riders by first name.

He might be on first name terms with them, but we are not. Unless the commentator is Icelandic, it is unprofessional.

 

[tobydawq]

He might be on first name terms with them, but we are not. Unless the commentator is Icelandic, it is unprofessional.

I don't agree. I don't need my bike racing to be a study in formality. Plus it would feel very artificial. Then again, we're more lax as Danes regarding politeness than most other countries, I think (apart, unsurprisingly, from Netserk).

 

[Netserk]

I don't agree. I don't need my bike racing to be a study in formality. Plus it would feel very artificial. Then again, we're more lax as Danes regarding politeness than most other countries, I think (apart, unsurprisingly, from Netserk).

We're quite informal and egalitarian (provincial too), and on the whole I very much appreciate that, but at times it would be nice with a greater distance between us. Like getting official mail from the state or municipality beginning with "Hey [first name], [bla bla]".

 

[davidsonduke]

In watching men's cyclocross this fall, I'm pretty sure It has been Toon Aerts and Eli Iserbyt pretty much every time. I don't think I've heard Iserbyt one time.

 

[RedheadDane]

Samuel Höfler (don't think he exists) might be referred to as "Höfler". But very few girls or boys would call Elisa Höfler "Höfler" at school, they would make it Elisa or Eli or Lisa or whatever.

So, now we're discussing what imaginary people might be referred to as?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So, now we're discussing what imaginary people might be referred to as?

Who made you the voice of reason all of a sudden?

 

[RedheadDane]

Who made you the voice of reason all of a sudden?

I have always been the voice of reason! That's why I frequently speak up against the cloning of riders, coz there are rules against that!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I don't agree. I don't need my bike racing to be a study in formality. Plus it would feel very artificial. Then again, we're more lax as Danes regarding politeness than most other countries, I think (apart, unsurprisingly, from Netserk).

It is not the role of a commentator to invite the listener to consider different riders in different lights depending on whether he is on first name terms with them. Treating different riders by different naming standards depending on whether he gets on with with them is unprofessional, regardless of whether it is formal.

 

[yaco]

In more important news Matt Keenan who heads up the commentary team for the ASO English world feed for many of the their races including the Vuelta and the TDF will only be on the ground at the TDF - Apparently for the Vuelta and some other ASO races he will do the commentary from Australia - He'll also commentate the Giro remotely - I am interested on whether Eurosport will have commentators on the ground for the Grand Tours.

 

[tobydawq]

It is not the role of a commentator to invite the listener to consider different riders in different lights depending on whether he is on first name terms with them. Treating different riders by different naming standards depending on whether he gets on with with them is unprofessional, regardless of whether it is formal.

Still don't agree. We're all people, including the commentators.

But then again, the guys who comment cyclocross on Danish TV2 are insufferable because they're clearly just fanboys of Mathieu and Wout (which they call them, without knowing them) and that's not good.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

We are all people, but the essence of professionalism is the willingness to put personal preferences aside when they are inappropriate.

 

[tobydawq]

We are all people, but the essence of professionalism is the willingness to put personal preferences aside when they are inappropriate.

But that's my point, I don't find it inappropriate at all, I would find it exceedingly odd if they had to talk about riders I know they know well with an artificial distance just to live up to some strange preconception of how their job is supposed to be done. Fortunately, that job can be interpreted in different ways.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Are the highlights of the Trofeo Calvia up yet? The GCN+ Race page has a 'Watch Replay' button enabled, but it just gives a static title card.

On the phone app it is on neither the catch up list nor the upcoming races schedule.

 

[search]

no idea about the app, but there are half an hour of highlights on TV tonight, starting in ~2 hours

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Thanks, probably becomes available at the same time. I'll avoid the relevant threads for a bit longer,

 

[davidsonduke]

Thanks, probably becomes available at the same time. I'll avoid the relevant threads for a bit longer,

Watched it on the app an hour ago.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Are the highlights of the Trofeo Calvia up yet? The GCN+ Race page has a 'Watch Replay' button enabled, but it just gives a static title card.

On the phone app it is on neither the catch up list nor the upcoming races schedule.

I watched it last night on the app in the UK.
Carlton Kirby is on duty

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Yeah, thanks. It did appear on GCN+, but only some time after they enabled the "watch now" button. Which is not very helpful.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Yeah, thanks. It did appear on GCN+, but only some time after they enabled the "watch now" button. Which is not very helpful.

That seems to happen on the Highlights Only packages particularly when Jose Been is the commentator. The old pro Carlton did a comparatively quick turnaround.

 

[argyllflyer]

Not a great start for Saudi Tour - no live pix until last 150m!

 

[lemon cheese cake]

Not a great start for Saudi Tour - no live pix until last 150m!

That wasn't their fault though was it? I thought it was the hosts.

 

[lemon cheese cake]

Not road racing, but it was good to finally get some good weekend long coverage from GCN and Eurosport at the CX world champs.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Not road racing, but it was good to finally get some good weekend long coverage from GCN and Eurosport at the CX world champs.

I agree, overall I thought the coverage was excellent.
Only a few minor technical hitches with sound, I was expecting the worst after the autumn US races.
Jeremy Powers was popping up everywhere on the course, almost impossible not to not to feel excited.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

That wasn't their fault though was it? I thought it was the hosts.

GCN seemed to think it was ASO who were responsible for that.

 

[davidsonduke]

GCN seemed to think it was ASO who were responsible for that.

When it finally came on, I thought I heard them say they would have coverage for last 3km. In a sense, we saw all the action, though.