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What a day it was today for Slovenian air forces:


Ladies winning 1, 2 and 3.

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Slovenke brez konkurence: Urša Bogataj na vrhu; trener Zupančič odstopil

Zgodovinsko najuspešnejša sezona za slovenske smučarske skakalke se je v Oberhofu končala s trojnim slavjem Slovenk. Urša Bogataj je zmagala pred Niko Križnar in Emo Klinec. Slovenke so tudi prvič dvignile lovoriko za zmago v pokalu narodov.
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Gents becoming world champions.

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Slovenci v Vikersundu poleteli do prve ekipne zlate medalje!

Domen Prevc, Peter Prevc, Timi Zajc in Anže Lanišek so na 27. svetovnem prvenstvu v poletih v Vikersundu Sloveniji z ogromno razliko priskakali prvo ekipno zlato medaljo na največjih tekmovanjih.
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Primož Roglič. After a lot of blood, sweat and tears left on French soil in previous years. With substantial help of his teammate Wout van Aert. Securing his overall win on Paris–Nice.

Mesmerizing.
 
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Goals for him this season from most important to least important (my personal preferences):

  1. Tour
  2. Lombardia
  3. Vuelta
  4. Fleche Wallonne
  5. L-B-L
  6. Paris-Nice (check)
  7. Dauphine
There are other races on his calendar in which he should do well, but I didn't include them for different reasons. Sanremo, because on paper he should ride there as a helper, Itzulia, because he already won it twice and WC RR and ITT, because those would be just an amazing bonus.

So, he started on the right track and is 1 for 1 so far. Next on the list is FW. Bring it on:cool:
 
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johnymax said:
Goals for him this season from most important to least important (my personal preferences):

  1. Tour
  2. Lombardia
  3. Vuelta
  4. Fleche Wallonne
  5. L-B-L
  6. Paris-Nice (check)
  7. Dauphine
There are other races on his calendar in which he should do well, but I didn't include them for different reasons. Sanremo, because on paper he should ride there as a helper, Itzulia, because he already won it twice and WC RR and ITT, because those would be just an amazing bonus.

So, he started on the right track and is 1 for 1 so far. Next on the list is FW. Bring it on:cool:
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My list would be:
  1. Tour
  2. Lombardia
  3. P-N
  4. Dauphine
  5. L-B-L
  6. Vuelta
  7. FW
I put P-N and Dauphine higher just because I feel that as dominant stage racer as he is, it's basically a must have in palmares. I would even wish he would go for all 7 1-week races (he already has P-N, Romandie, Itzulia, T-A). Vuelta is way down because he won it already 3x so not much to prove there.
 
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Eeslliw said:
My list would be:
  1. Tour
  2. Lombardia
  3. P-N
  4. Dauphine
  5. L-B-L
  6. Vuelta
  7. FW
I put P-N and Dauphine higher just because I feel that as dominant stage racer as he is, it's basically a must have in palmares. I would even wish he would go for all 7 1-week races (he already has P-N, Romandie, Itzulia, T-A). Vuelta is way down because he won it already 3x so not much to prove there.
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Vuelta is a big fish. Dauphine, Suisse and Catalunya are not.

Also equizing the Vuelta record would honestly be sweet af
 
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Given his current calendar I will rate his priorities as follows:
1.Tour
2.Vuelta
3.Lombardia
4.LBL
5.P-N - done
6.Dauphine
7.FW
8.Itzulia

I would've liked for him to have a try at Catalunya instead of Itzulia, not sure Dumoulin can be in good form there. But I guess having more uphill finishes and a TT suits him better.

The whole Rominger saga is still in full swing, it's incredible how he goes in his steps.
 
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I like the idea of Primoz riding under the guise of working for WVA in MSR, and then towards the top of the Poggio, WVA deliberately allows a gap to open up, and Roglic goes for the win.

It's possible. And if he is caught then Wout wins the sprint.

That's all subject to Pog not having already attacked and being comfortably clear of course.
 
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Roglic‘ Instagram post is great. I think yesterday's stage 8 was great for the relationship of Roglic and van Aert.

Roglic and Wout have each other. That‘s the same as if Tadej and MVDP would be teammates.

P-N this time was a full success for Jumbo. Stage wins for Laporte, Wout and Roglic, and GC victory for Roglic.

Yesterday‘s clearly was the situation when Primoz needed WVA the most. And Wout was there when he was needed.

Next important race will be MSR. I am not sure if Roglic‘s participation in Denain on Thursday will help him on Saturday… I think that Wout‘s victory in MSR in 2020 takes away some pressure from Jumbo. This time, we probably will see an attack from Pogacar at the Cipressa, which is quite a long way from the finish. Primoz and Wout will have to stay with Pogacar then. This will be incredibly difficult, but if someone can, it‘s Primoz and WVA. :)
 
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Skijumper Roglic fan said:
Roglic‘ Instagram post is great. I think yesterday's stage 8 was great for the relationship of Roglic and van Aert.

Roglic and Wout have each other. That‘s the same as if Tadej and MVDP would be teammates.

P-N this time was a full success for Jumbo. Stage wins for Laporte, Wout and Roglic, and GC victory for Roglic.

Yesterday‘s clearly was the situation when Primoz needed WVA the most. And Wout was there when he was needed.

Next important race will be MSR. I am not sure if Roglic‘s participation in Denain on Thursday will help him on Saturday… I think that Wout‘s victory in MSR in 2020 takes away some pressure from Jumbo. This time, we probably will see an attack from Pogacar at the Cipressa, which is quite a long way from the finish. Primoz and Wout will have to stay with Pogacar then. This will be incredibly difficult, but if someone can, it‘s Primoz and WVA. :)
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We will not see an attack on the Cipressa, much less from a favourite.
 
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We will not see an attack on the Cipressa, much less from a favourite.
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I, however, will be watching on Saturday, just to see THIS attack on Cipressa which I hope will take place. It would be a great edition of MSR if the favourites would start attacking on Cipressa.

I agree, this attack there is far from certain, but I really believe that this year could be the year when we see the decisive move happening on the Cipressa climb. Pogacar and Roglic both spoke about it. Pantani once attacked there. The likes of Pogi and Primoz cannot wait until Via Roma. And the damage they can do on Poggio would probably not be big enough. So Cipressa seems ideal. Fingers crossed it will happen just like this. :)
 
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CyclistAbi said:
In 2022 i would like to see Roglič participating in:

  • Paris–Nice
  • La Flèche Wallonne
  • Il Lombardia
  • Doing nationals RR or ITT
  • Slovenia getting long term national team coach capable of managing an all-star team
As for GT racing. Both scenarios would work for me.

  1. If the route and field suits Roglič do a Giro and after to decide whatever Tour or Vuelta double makes more sense. In that case and regardless of the outcome go all in on Tour in 2023. If Pogačar does Giro 2022 go all in on Tour 2022 and skip the Giro 2022.
  2. Go all in regarding the Tour 2022. Especially if the route suits Roglič and if there will be some TTT involved.
We'll see.
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Off to a good start.
 
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Saturday‘s stages in P-N and T-A have been the queen stages. I compared a few facts:

Paris-Nice:
Stage 7
155 kms
3580 vertical meters
Winner Roglic
Rank 2‘s (Martinez) delay 0 seconds
Average speed of winner 38.36 km/h

Tirreno:
Stage 6
215 kms
3815 vertical meters
Winner Pogacar
Rank 2‘s (Vingegaard) delay 1min 3secs
Average speed of winner 39.22 km/h

We see that Tadej‘s victory, on paper, was the stronger performance.

I, however, think that Primoz and Tadej are on the same level, and will be at the TdF. One thing is for certain: Tadej, at TdF, will not be allowed to show the slightest weakness. Otherwise, the Tour winner 2022 will be Primoz Roglic… :)
 
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I didn't watch the full TA stage hence i don't know much about the details. On how much support UAE provided and what was happening during the stage and things like that. I would say that both individual performances were impressive. Roglič had to do a lot of work at the end of the stage by himself and i wonder if Pogačar would use the same tactics. If he would need to do the last stage from PN at the next day. What i can say is that it would make sense for Roglič if he wouldn't stomp on queen stage at TDF 2022. That should enable him to do a great ITT after. He should in my opinion basically stomp as little as possible. Especially if he will gain some time against main competitors on week 1. ITT, cobbles, cross winds ... And for his team to in general use the laid back approach whenever possible. This will likely be hard to do on some stages due to van Aert ambitions for green. But i am sure that they will sort that out. As for what race was harder in general. PN or TA. Personally i am leaning towards PN being a harder race in 2022.
 
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I’m not that sure stomping is the problem. Many times he was excellent the day after the stomp and occasionally he had a bad day the day after laying low.

In my opinion, he should attack from a greater distance, maximising damage while he can. If he did that in gravel stage of TDF instead, he would have won that Tour…

I think taking more time on Saturday (as he looked like he could) is better approach for a guy like Rogla…
 
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I agree that Pog looked stronger in winning TA than Roglic did in winning PN. But, TA had more "rest" stages, one fewer stage in general and maybe a lower level of competition. PN was a difficult race this year. So I wouldn't read too much into it.

I admit, though, that I was a little surprised at Roglic's weakness on Sunday. I'll chalk it up early season/hard race.
 
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I don't really understand the need to compare Roglic to Pogacar.
Pog is a better and stronger rider overall. Expecting Roglic to win the Tour riding mano a mano against him would be kind of irrational. Which is why I believe Jumbo's strategy to go with 2 leaders makes sense, even if it probably won't work.
 
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I don't really understand the need to compare Roglic to Pogacar.
Pog is a better and stronger rider overall. Expecting Roglic to win the Tour riding mano a mano against him would be kind of irrational. Which is why I believe Jumbo's strategy to go with 2 leaders makes sense, even if it probably won't work.
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I dont believe in 2 leaders. I believe in being close enough to have variance give him a non 0% shot
 
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