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[Lequack]

It would be nice to have Zeeman or Grischa at the Giro, but I have a feeling it'll be Engels...

The pee incident Engels?

 

[acm]

The pee incident Engels?

Unfortunately yes... he was DS in Italy last year.

 

[MTV]

Unfortunately yes... he was DS in Italy last year.

Everybody deserves a second chance.

 

[bNator]

The pee incident Engels?

While peeing was bad enough - it was his defeatist attitude in that race that really rubbed me wrong. It was obvious from every post-stage interview he gave... I hope it's not him in the car again. I'm sure it was him who came up with the brilliant idea to only mark Nibali and forget everyone else (like Carapaz).

 

[Sciatic]

Bigger goals first. Another Grand Tour must be a priority now.

There's plenty of time later to become a Philippe Gilbert/Milan-San Remo equivalent in one week stage races, i.e. chase the Tour de Suisse as a sort of 'unfinished business' type race just for the heck of it.

Strive for 5 . . . Seize the Suisse?

 

[acm]

Everybody deserves a second chance.

Agree and he already had a second chance, La Vuelta last year.

 

[Oldermanish]

He has never ridden it.

It's actually quite funny; he has ridden four July Tours but has never had the same approach. In 2017, he rode the ZLM Toer (for reasons incrompehensible to me). In 2018, he rode the Tour of Slovenia. In 2021, he didn't do a race in June (apart from nationals), and last year he did the Dauphiné. So probably Suisse (or Tour of Belgium) is next.

Thanks for the correction. It was the 2019 Tour of Romandie that we had some broadcasts available. Loved the roads and his phenomenal ability to bridge. Not sure how much he knew and if he had any support.

 

[Andy schleck]

It's quite funny the certainty of some people, that this guy will for sure lose time to remco in the TTs at the giro. He just lost to remco 45 seconds in the last TT at the vuelta when he all know he wasn't at his best during his vuelta after the crash in the tour. So, i think in the worst scenario, roglic will not lose many time to remco in the first two TTs. We can also see that he beat remco in TT of tour pays basque 2022, and that beat remco and won the TT of the olympique games with an advantage of 1 min to the one in the second place.

 

[johnymax]

It's quite funny the certainty of some people, that this guy will for sure lose time to remco in the TTs at the giro. He just lost to remco 45 seconds in the last TT at the vuelta when he all know he wasn't at his best during his vuelta after the crash in the tour. So, i think in the worst scenario, roglic will not lose many time to remco in the first two TTs. We can also see that he beat remco in TT of tour pays basque 2022, and that beat remco and won the TT of the olympique games with an advantage of 1 min to the one in the second place.

The problem for Roglič is that the first two ITTs are mostly flat. Remco has shown in the last couple of years he is better than Roglič in those. If the ITTs were hilly, that would have been another story. So I think Remco has a clear advantage there and as a Roglic fan, if he loses around a minute or less in the first two ITTs, I would be happy honestly. Even if he loses a minute and a half it wouldn't be terrible IMO.

The last ITT is completely different. It's basically a MTT and as it comes on stage 20, more than TT ability it will be important what form the riders will carry after all the mountain stages in the third week of the Giro and in what condition riders will finish the race. I give them both 50-50 chance there as of now, but if one is on a bad day, he can lose minutes.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The problem for Roglič is that the first two ITTs are mostly flat. Remco has shown in the last couple of years he is better than Roglič in those. If the ITTs were hilly, that would have been another story. So I think Remco has a clear advantage there and as a Roglic fan, if he loses around a minute or less in the first two ITTs, I would be happy honestly. Even if he loses a minute and a half it wouldn't be terrible IMO.

Thanks for a reasonable post. Apparently some people are too busy accusing others of being biased, that they become blind for their own bias. Next you won't be allowed to say Pogacar is better at sprinting than Vingegaard, because Vingegaard won the TDF last time.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Elos Anjos]

Impressive, very nice. Let's see Pogacar Total in the end of the year.

 

[CyclistAbi]

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Congratulations on winning Volta a Catalunya against a very strong field and adding this race to the palmares. Due to the competition with Evenepoel being so close this really bode well with the historical achievement of now becoming the only cyclist in the history winning 6 different prestigious one week races.

Chapeau!

 

[MTV]

Agree and he already had a second chance, La Vuelta last year.

Well, he is 3 cm shorter from the "victim of the year". But you are right. I also wish the best support for Primož.

 

[Monte Serra]

He's destined to win the Giro, and truly become the new Rominger. The hour record might be a bridge too far though?

 

[MTV]

For me - this year see him smile and laugh is priceless - yes he is winning, but I just like to see him happy again.

 

[Oldermanish]

He's destined to win the Giro, and truly become the new Rominger. The hour record might be a bridge too far though?

His destiny in the minds of fans still requires a historic ride against and extremely worthy adversary, maybe several.
Hour record? Why?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Wow, a couple of more GTs, a few more 1-week wins and Primoz eats Eddy for breakfast!
As for Pog he only takes part in one GT and one 1-week big race per year. He's too focused on classics to get the top position here, at least nowadays.

 

[Monte Serra]

Hour record? Why?

It was a not too serious reference to Tony Rominger, who was previously referenced in the thread title, and has a similar record in stage races (as the table above shows). Rominger won the Vuelta three times, before breaking the hour record and winning the Giro.

 

[tobydawq]

It was a not too serious reference to Tony Rominger, who was previously referenced in the thread title, and has a similar record in stage races (as the table above shows). Rominger won the Vuelta three times, before breaking the hour record and winning the Giro.

I don't get why Landa's name was replaced with Rominger's. I think Roglic and Landa are identical riders.

 

[CyclistAbi]

We often try but don't get this quite right indeed. And i will tell you on why. Is Primož the new Contador, Rominger, Valverde or maybe he is a new Kelly? Lets first get over some other facts. Roglič is now a king of week long stage races. Against all odds it turned out he crushes much more then he crashes. Just one letter and totally different result. There used to be some provocations. Like if you take away Kuss then Primož can't win. A kiss goodbye to such claims. From taking on Sky/Ineos train successfully to stay on top in his generation and now staying on top of the next generation of champions. Primož hence debunked one more myth successfully. He is not an in between generation champion as instead he is an intergenerational champion. And still there is more to come. Looking forward to be a part of that. So on who Primož really is. He is Primož Roglič.

 

[Red Rick]

Interview | Mathieu Heijboer over Roglic: 'We hielden er rekening mee dat het opbouwproces een stuk langzamer zou gaan' | Wieler Revue

Primoz Roglic begon met een serieuze achterstand aan het seizoen, maar heeft inmiddels al zeven overwinningen achter zijn naam staan.

wielerrevue.nl

Heijboer: "We considered the possibility his progress would go a lot slower than this."

Interesting note is Roglic went to a doctor at a professional tennis academy for his shoulder rehab., which I guess is the Mouratoglou tennis academy?

His shoulder injury was probably a lot heavier than I initially thought tbh.

 

[acm]

Interesting. Good that Jumbo Visma took it seriously and didn't make the same mistake as last year when Roglic had knee problem.
So he'll be a tennis player after cycling, huh?

 

[Rackham]

It's clear there was a big discussion in the team & they didn't just leave him to go & see Doctor whatshisname in Slovenia, like after his knee problem in Itzulia last year. Jumbo looked after him this time.

Interview | Mathieu Heijboer over Roglic: 'We hielden er rekening mee dat het opbouwproces een stuk langzamer zou gaan' | Wieler Revue

Primoz Roglic begon met een serieuze achterstand aan het seizoen, maar heeft inmiddels al zeven overwinningen achter zijn naam staan.

wielerrevue.nl

Heijboer: "We considered the possibility his progress would go a lot slower than this."

Interesting note is Roglic went to a doctor at a professional tennis academy for his shoulder rehab., which I guess is the Mouratoglou tennis academy?

His shoulder injury was probably a lot heavier than I initially thought tbh.

I was worried he'd lose some of his explosiveness or he'd have to switch position on the bike. This was very reassuring (aka he's back at his best):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639303007459332096

View: https://twitter.com/MazaCiclismo/status/1639303007459332096

 

[bNator]

It's clear there was a big discussion in the team & they didn't just leave him to go & see Doctor whatshisname in Slovenia, like after his knee problem in Itzulia last year. Jumbo looked after him this time.



I was worried he'd lose some of his explosiveness or he'd have to switch position on the bike. This was very reassuring (aka he's back at his best):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639303007459332096

View: https://twitter.com/MazaCiclismo/status/1639303007459332096

I don’t think that’s accurate. His operation was definitely done in Slovenian University Medical Center and was probably covered by our standard (universal) health insurance. I don’t think it was the same doctor though…