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[Red Rick]

Giro di Lombardia is Pogacar's home. I will be very surprised if someone can stay within a minute from Pogacar after Sormano.

I won't be.

While he has won it 3 years running, it's never been the level of destruction he has won other races by. Even Pog is tired by October.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I won't be.

While he has won it 3 years running, it's never been the level of destruction he has won other races by. Even Pog is tired by October.

I partially agree with you. However last year his win was dominant and this year, we can see how Pogacar is on a different level.

 

[CyclistAbi]

No Muro di Sormano in Il Lombardia route this year only Colma di Sormano and given the last editions, I doubt that Roglič will beat Pogačar there.

For sure it would help if the climb would be harder, help to drop Pogi, still it's on this climb on where the action will start and Rogla will shred the race apart.

New team, new monument.

 

[Berniece]

Giro di Lombardia is Pogacar's home. I will be very surprised if someone can stay within a minute from Pogacar after Sormano.

He has never won Lombardia by a minute or more

 

[CyclistAbi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837491097783673023

View: https://x.com/davidcrmelj/status/1837491097783673023

Roglič: Popolnoma nič se ne obremenjujem z uvrstitvijo

Slovenija ima na svetovnem prvenstvu v kolesarstvu letos izjemno visoke cilje. V Zürichu bo na cestni dirki nastopila z zelo kakovostno ekipo, za začetek pa bo Primož Roglič v nedeljo lovil odmeven rezultat tudi v vožnji na čas.

www.rtvslo.si

So reckoning went well and Rogla rode on the descent twice as it's fast and technical. Flat sections will be decisive and Rogla still feels Vuelta in his legs but said that the plan for tomorrow is to push it to the limit and if achieving that he will be happy regardless of the result.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22rNPh6bHo

 

[CyclistAbi]

16:31 (CET).

 

[entre nous]

In hindsight, today's blow might prove not only unnecessary but also costly

 

[Ilmaestro99]

In hindsight, today's blow might prove not only unnecessary but also costly

It certainly seems a bizarre decision to race the time trial, especially with recent injuries, but I'll never hate on a rider for wanting to race

 

[Red Rick]

In hindsight, today's blow might prove not only unnecessary but also costly

Costly how exactly?

The way he talked about it implied he thinks this is better for the road race cause he may not wanna go 3 weeks without racing before the road race. In additino, there's a full week between the TT and the RR now, unlike previously

 

[acm]

It was clear from the start that the focus just wasn't there. And as the results show this was a TT for pure specialists.

 

[zlev11]

he still beat some really good time trialists and only 18 seconds behind Stefan Kung is nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[Red Rick]

he still beat some really good time trialists and only 18 seconds behind Stefan Kung is nothing to be ashamed of.

Kung didn't even do a good TT himself so that doesn't say anything.

 

[Rackham]

I called it last week. It's like Pog finishing 3 minutes down in Glasgow last year.

It's one of those races during the year where we just know Rog has no chance. It happens. No biggie.

I expect nothing next Sunday either. If there's a race which is actually 'on his radar', it'll be Lombardia. But even that is a real longshot.

 

[Red Rick]

I called it last week. It's like Pog finishing 3 minutes down in Glasgow last year.

It's one of those races during the year where we just know Rog has no chance. It happens. No biggie.

I expect nothing next Sunday either. If there's a race which is actually 'on his radar', it'll be Lombardia. But even that is a real longshot.

Think if you're in recovery mode from a GT it's easier to do a 6 hour road race than to do a 55 minute ITT

 

[Rackham]

Think if you're in recovery mode from a GT it's easier to do a 6 hour road race than to do a 55 minute ITT

I fully expect Rog to get blamed on social media when Pog doesn't become world champ.

I think today was Rog's first appearance in his national colors... since the 2021 Worlds, actually. It's always been either awesome (Olympic gold, silver in the 2017 ITT) or a bit *** (like taking the blame for WvA in Imola).

I can't wait for this to be over & he can get back into his team colors.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I fully expect Rog to get blamed on social media when Pog doesn't become world champ.

I think today was Rog's first appearance in his national colors... since the 2021 Worlds, actually. It's always been either awesome (Olympic gold, silver in the 2017 ITT) or a bit *** (like taking the blame for WvA in Imola).

I can't wait for this to be over & he can get back into his team colors.

Do you really think he won't?
That scenario can happen if he doesn't give a s#it to help Pogacar. For me, he has a free role. He is too big to be just a helper even if I think Pogacar is clearly the overwhelming favourite.

 

[Rackham]

Do you really think he won't?
That scenario can happen if he doesn't give a s#it to help Pogacar. For me, he has a free role. He is too big to be just a helper even if I think Pogacar is clearly the overwhelming favourite.

It's the Worlds.

Anything can happen. It's not as selective as some monuments or classics (& certainly GT's). It's a huge slog of course and an endurance test but I don't know, I get the feeling something similar to Carapaz winning Tokyo's gold might happen.

That's my predication anyway.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I fully expect Rog to get blamed on social media when Pog doesn't become world champ.

Depends if Roglic actually helps in some way or pulls an Ayuso. Though if Pogacar wins/loses and it’s from Roglic covering Evenepoel I can see blame coming out.

 

[Rackham]

Depends if Roglic actually helps in some way or pulls an Ayuso. Though if Pogacar wins/loses and it’s from Roglic covering Evenepoel I can see blame coming out.

Honestly I have no idea what Rog would even do for Pog. If Pog has the legs, then he's just going to 'ride away'. What's Rog going to do for him? Fetch some bottles? They'll have guys positioned all over the circuit for that.

The only value Rog can actually provide Pog is one of second leader, aka sitting on the tail of the chasing group for as long as he can survive.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Honestly I have no idea what Rog would even do for Pog. If Pog has the legs, then he's just going to 'ride away'. What's Rog going to do for him? Fetch some bottles? They'll have guys positioned all over the circuit for that.

The only value Rog can actually provide Pog is one of second leader, aka sitting on the tail of the chasing group for as long as he can survive.

Roglic can do what Yates do for Pogacar. 500m sprint in the red just to kill everyone else before Pogacar's attack.

 

[Berniece]

Honestly I have no idea what Rog would even do for Pog. If Pog has the legs, then he's just going to 'ride away'. What's Rog going to do for him? Fetch some bottles? They'll have guys positioned all over the circuit for that.

The only value Rog can actually provide Pog is one of second leader, aka sitting on the tail of the chasing group for as long as he can survive.

What did Majka do for Pogacar in Montreal? Someone needs to set a pace to suffocate everyone, and then Pogacar attacks

 

[Rackham]

Roglic can do what Yates do for Pogacar. 500m sprint in the red just to kill everyone else before Pogacar's attack.

And... why on earth would he do that?

Yates and Majka are paid by UAE to do that. What's Rog getting? A sense of national duty? I mean this doesn't make any sense. People always get so hung up about teammates sacrificing themselves in cycling but the Worlds are different. Especially when you're talking about Rog and Pog. And anyway Rog has been on the receiving end of the other side of that argument, i.e. when he got dogpiled for not pulling enough for his Jumbo teammate Van Aert in Imola.

So there's always going to be some p*ssed off group at the Worlds, aka drama junkies who erect 'teamwork' and sacrifice for the leader as the sine qua non of pro cycling at all costs (with the high priest of teamwork aka Chris Horner always ready to pounce when someone transgresses the 'code'), national fans who want the gold at all costs and will dogpile Rog if Pog doesn't win it and then fans from the countries of his Red Bull teammates who might think he didn't repay some of the work those guys did for him in the Vuelta by pulling for them in the Worlds (it's happened before, aka the aforementioned Van Aert debacle).

Long story short, I don't like the World Championships.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Do you really think he won't?
That scenario can happen if he doesn't give a s#it to help Pogacar. For me, he has a free role. He is too big to be just a helper even if I think Pogacar is clearly the overwhelming favourite.

@Rackham

 

[Blanco]

Roglic can do what Yates do for Pogacar. 500m sprint in the red just to kill everyone else before Pogacar's attack.

He won't do that. Maybe only if he knows he's done, 2-3 laps from the finish, and to give that last effort if Pogacar wants to go. In the last lap, no chance I think.., it's every man for himself.

 

[Red Rick]

He won't do that. Maybe only if he knows he's done, 2-3 laps from the finish, and to give that last effort if Pogacar wants to go. In the last lap, no chance I think.., it's every man for himself.

If they're together in the same group at that stage he should absolutely do that.

The real complexity is if there's attacks and the group is grinded down to 20 guys, and there's no other Slovenians outside of Pog and Rog.