"Food Poisoning"

[Willy_Voet]

Food Poisoning

Haven't we heard this before? Is Garmin-Cervelo the new PDM? JV has more explaining to do.

 

[andy1234]

Food Poisoning

Haven't we heard this before? Is Garmin-Cervelo the new PDM? JV has more explaining to do.

Maybe he has food poisoning.
Just a thought....

 

[veganrob]

I don't understand how professional athletes, with so much to lose, are not more careful about what they put in their body.

 

[hrotha]

It's suspicious, but I wouldn't compare one single rider claiming food poisoning (which could be just a BS excuse to withdraw without ****ing off the race organizers) to whole squads abandoning a race and blaming it on the food.

 

[Chuffy]

I don't understand how professional athletes, with so much to lose, are not more careful about what they put in their body.

I'm sure they are, but there are so many variables when you're out on the road that it must be impossible to control all of them. Do Garmin take their mobile kitchen to every race? I doubt it. Plus you have to factor in the stress that the riders bodies are under - it wouldn't take much to upset them.

Sometimes a cow is just a cow, not a donkey in disguise.

 

[Neworld]

I don't understand how professional athletes, with so much to lose, are not more careful about what they put in their body.

You are right pros, with minimal excess fat who are always riding into the 'stress zone' should be extra careful. But, this is the season for 'germs'.

As an aside do you have kids? Does Thor H have kids? Children are unbelieveable vector for GI issues...go hang out at school or a day care for a while. Getting adenovirus for example is pretty hard to avoid; IMHO.

NW

 

[sniper]

Thor's unlucky that the press message speaks of foodpoisoning. Indeed, PDM comes to mind immediately.
His press-team should have known better.
I mean, diarrea, a flue, or something, would have sound plausible, and nobody would have cried a word about it.

 

[Darryl Webster]

I always found it remarkable how many top riders seamed to have very poor guts. Fortunatly I was blessed with a good constitution and very rarely sick. That said it`s a pretty stock excuse, sometimes true, sometimes not so unfortunalty were sceptical.
Im prety confident the cocktail of gear, both legal and possibly otherwise many riders use cant be to good for many though one thing perhaps overloooked by fans is the sheer volume of callories required puting a big stress on a persons gut.
Finaly, It can be a fine line between peak condition and over stressed and increased vulnerability to infections.
Less theres reason to doupt I`d give him the benifit of the doupt.

 

[Kennf1]

It's one rider, not the whole team. I can't imagine hotel hopping 8 months of the year, riding 400 miles a week, and NOT getting food poisoning once in a while. All it takes is one dirty piece of lettuce.

 

[maltiv]

You are right. Thor Hushovd definitely tried to prepare himself illegally in order to be ready for the most important race of his season, the Challenge Mallorca.

 

[Anonymous]

Sometimes a cow is just a cow, not a donkey in disguise.

Or to quote rafa benitez "White liquid in a bottle has to be milk."

 

[forty four]

I always found it remarkable how many top riders seamed to have very poor guts. Fortunatly I was blessed with a good constitution and very rarely sick. That said it`s a pretty stock excuse, sometimes true, sometimes not so unfortunalty were sceptical.
Im prety confident the cocktail of gear, both legal and possibly otherwise many riders use cant be to good for many though one thing perhaps overloooked by fans is the sheer volume of callories required puting a big stress on a persons gut.
Finaly, It can be a fine line between peak condition and over stressed and increased vulnerability to infections.
Less theres reason to doupt I`d give him the benifit of the doupt.

exactly the more trained you are the weaker your immune system can become whenever my form is best i have to be real careful with gi issues. i have a stomach illness as we speak.

 

[JPM London]

Maybe he has food poisoning.
Just a thought....

Maybe the riders should have a code to use for when they actually do have a legit problem? Seeing as all "normal" phrases for non-doping related illnesses have at some point or other been used to cover doping...

Maybe just go "Thor had to pick up the kids from school today" could be a slightly pulled achilles and "Thor had to leave early to prepare dinner for his mother-in-law" could be food poisoning.

Then we wouldn't have to wonder when we heard about "food-poisoning" and "tainted meat".

You are right. Thor Hushovd definitely tried to prepare himself illegally in order to be ready for the most important race of his season, the Challenge Mallorca.

Heh! Gold...

 

[Digger]

You are right. Thor Hushovd definitely tried to prepare himself illegally in order to be ready for the most important race of his season, the Challenge Mallorca.

+1..........

 

[malanb]

exactly the more trained you are the weaker your immune system can become whenever my form is best i have to be real careful with gi issues. i have a stomach illness as we speak.

yup I dont know why people dont believe this. I get a lot of stomach issues and sometimes respiratory tract infections when I train loads. Just dont sleep and rest enough after hard races or continued hard training and one gets sick or ingest a small amount of bacteria that is in your food that you usually can fight when you re exhausted .doesnt take that much. I even got once parasites after I drank from my bottle in a race, we cross some smelly sewer puddle on the way, my bottle got accidentally splashed, I got ill. Diarrhea is very common

 

[sniper]

You are right. Thor Hushovd definitely tried to prepare himself illegally in order to be ready for the most important race of his season, the Challenge Mallorca.

Doping is also about being able to absolve more training hours.
Thor being juiced or not at this stage has little to do with the race he's racing.
EDIT: in fact, this is the time of the season to experiment with new products. Just as the PDM back then experimented with something new, though unluckily, in the middle of the TDF.
In other words, the fact that it's only the Challenge Mallorca isn't much of an argument.

 

[JPM London]

EDIT: in fact, this is the time of the season to experiment with new products. Just as the PDM back then experimented with something new, though unluckily, in the middle of the TDF.
In other words, the fact that it's only the Challenge Mallorca isn't much of an argument.

Ah, yes. Of course... "Hey, here's a completely new, untested product. Who's up for it? No-one? Ok, we'll just give it to the World Champ, then - he's so totally expendable".

'Bout time you put on that tin-foil hat, methinks...

 

[sniper]

Ah, yes. Of course... "Hey, here's a completely new, untested product. Who's up for it? No-one? Ok, we'll just give it to the World Champ, then - he's so totally expendable".

'Bout time you put on that tin-foil hat, methinks...

I wasn't saying Thor's diarrea implies doping, just saying the "it'S only the Mallorca Challenge"-argument is empty.

 

[Digger]

Doping is also about being able to absolve more training hours.
Thor being juiced or not at this stage has little to do with the race he's racing.EDIT: in fact, this is the time of the season to experiment with new products. Just as the PDM back then experimented with something new, though unluckily, in the middle of the TDF.
In other words, the fact that it's only the Challenge Mallorca isn't much of an argument.

So why enter the race in the first place if he was going to go into a doping cycle?

 

[sniper]

So why enter the race in the first place if he was going to go into a doping cycle?

perhapsto test his juice in competition?
Note the emphasis on perhaps

EDIT: The fact that it was only the Mallorca Challenge doesn't mean he isn't doping at this stage of his training campaign.
But ok, I admit that it seems unlikely for Thor to experiment during the Mallorca challenge.

 

[veganrob]

You are right pros, with minimal excess fat who are always riding into the 'stress zone' should be extra careful. But, this is the season for 'germs'.

As an aside do you have kids? Does Thor H have kids? Children are unbelieveable vector for GI issues...go hang out at school or a day care for a while. Getting adenovirus for example is pretty hard to avoid; IMHO.

NW

Agreed. When a person is on the edge so often from training and racing the immune system is seriously taxed. And because the athletes are so super fit and extremely low body fat does not necessarily mean the are healthy. I am not throwing stones at Thor, just speaking in general.

My daughter is 21 now and lives down the street. But yeah, schools are breeding grounds for germs.

 

[Mr.38%]

Mallorcas hotels are known for food poisoning, it happend twice in 4 **** categorie rated hotels last winter when I was there. Don't take my word for it, just read through comments on hotel rating sites, you find that frequently and not just during summer.

What about the usual café con leche after 2-3 hours riding in some obscure bar in the countryside? Or the well deserved helado in the evening on Palmas boulevard? I had bad milk on several occasions over the many years training there.

 

[maltiv]

Mallorcas hotels are known for food poisoning, it happend twice in 4 **** categorie rated hotels last winter when I was there

You must be a doper! Food poisining, pfft, must be doping.

 

[sniper]

You must be a doper! Food poisining, pfft, must be doping.

No way. It's only Mallorca. Nobody dopes once they set foot on Mallorca.

 

[Frosty]

'The water in Majorca dont taste like what it oughta.' A common British phrase, im disappointed that David Millar didnt relate the problems with Spain to his new Norwegian team-mate. There we go, the Spanish and David Millar are to blame, they normally are in the clinic...

People do genuinely get ill, if you assume that every illness is actually a cover-up without any other evidence then there are going to be quite a lot of these threads.