Gerrans rubbishes Worlds vote rumours

[Angliru]

Based on Cadel's comments in his biography, I would suggest no vote was taken. He noted that after they came out of the final team meeting - and discussion with DS Neil Stephens - he had to clarify with his room mate Simon Clarke (of ISD) that he was a protected rider based on Stephens' discussions in the meeting. There would be no need to clarify if a vote was taken. Besides, what DS is going to decide via a vote - its the DS's job to decide, and if he doesn't have the balls to make the call, he shouldn't be a DS/shouldn't be asked back.

The reality is, when the heat got put on in Switzerland, Gerrans couldn't match it, he won the sprint of his group, but that was for 10th, two groups back from the winner.

Seems odd that it wasn't made clear during the meeting who the team's protected rider(s) are. For someone to come out of the meeting unsure really doesn't speak well to how the rider's focus would be once the race started. How can one know their responsibilities when this important fact is still murky?
Ultimately this strategy is gold considering the outcome.

 

[Galic Ho]

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story--------------------------
If we dont hear a good rumour by 10.00am,---we start one!

Good call. You've caught me.

Wait...I heard this rumour 10 months ago. Guess I am not so easy to catch after all. A vote is a vote. Does this subsequent denial remind anyone of the federal election that still is yet to be determined? I'm still waiting on both counts for someone to take responsibility and make a proper decision.

 

[Galic Ho]

Seems odd that it wasn't made clear during the meeting who the team's protected rider(s) are. For someone to come out of the meeting unsure really doesn't speak well to how the rider's focus would be once the race started. How can one know their responsibilities when this important fact is still murky?
Ultimately this strategy is gold considering the outcome.

What really happened was nobody would let Cancellara go. Evans caught the three most dangerous riders marking one another. Sanchez and Valverde allowed Rodriguez to make a move, while they watched Cancellara, and Joaquim was followed by a Russian (Kolobnev I think). Cadel latched onto that and then pounced. When Cadel went everyone appeared to assume Fabian would chase it down and do the work for them yet again, but he didn't. Only Gilbert realised how dumb that was but by the time he went chasing, Cadel had already left the Spaniard and Russian he was with. When Gerrans cracked, Cadel was left behind the first group.

Cancellara was pushing a massive pace on the second last hill and I remember Evans had at one stage a 5 second gap to bridge after he left Gerrans. Really what happened was nobody wanted Fabian to take home two WC jerseys. He was the strongest rider on the day. Unfortunately he was tag teamed too often and Cadel was waiting for a distraction and used it perfectly.

 

[auscyclefan94]

What really happened was nobody would let Cancellara go. Evans caught the three most dangerous riders marking one another. Sanchez and Valverde allowed Rodriguez to make a move, while they watched Cancellara, and Joaquim was followed by a Russian (Kolobnev I think). Cadel latched onto that and then pounced. When Cadel went everyone appeared to assume Fabian would chase it down and do the work for them yet again, but he didn't. Only Gilbert realised how dumb that was but by the time he went chasing, Cadel had already left the Spaniard and Russian he was with. When Gerrans cracked, Cadel was left behind the first group.

Cancellara was pushing a massive pace on the second last hill and I remember Evans had at one stage a 5 second gap to bridge after he left Gerrans. Really what happened was nobody wanted Fabian to take home two WC jerseys. He was the strongest rider on the day. Unfortunately he was tag teamed too often and Cadel was waiting for a distraction and used it perfectly.

From the time check he was 6 seconds back and that was when he had already reacted which means the gap was probably bigger. People fail to recognise how bigger of an effort evans had to make to bridge up to the Cancellara group

 

[Winterfold]

Whatever, it was a brilliant attack by Evans (on a climb in his backyard, surely you would back him on that?), Cancellara thought he could blow everyone off his wheel, but failed, and Cadel was clearly a deserving and exciting winner. And since then he was done the rainbow jersey proud with ballsy riding and some epic wins.

This just smacks of some ****-stirring by the mainstream press who are in the business of creating conflict where there is not much, or none.

 

[blackcat]

there was a vote. Evans did not get a vote from anyone.

In about March April 2009, Evans contacted Gerrans to ask him for support at Mendrisio, it was his home in Switzerland afterall. Gerrans asked for 30k for riding for Evans. Evans would not pay. Vote 8-1. Came out of the meeting and asked Sulzberger what the hell happened in there.

but he took away the rings, without paying team bonuses cos none bar Clarke did anywork for him, dont know if Clarke has a new Patek Philippe now, but assume not, think Evans holds his wallet close, and does not have the political deft touch.

Also no one would congratulate him in the team party. Only Clarke. Neil Stephens did not have one word to him over race radio when he was off the front in the last 10km.

 

[Angliru]

What really happened was nobody would let Cancellara go. Evans caught the three most dangerous riders marking one another. Sanchez and Valverde allowed Rodriguez to make a move, while they watched Cancellara, and Joaquim was followed by a Russian (Kolobnev I think). Cadel latched onto that and then pounced. When Cadel went everyone appeared to assume Fabian would chase it down and do the work for them yet again, but he didn't. Only Gilbert realised how dumb that was but by the time he went chasing, Cadel had already left the Spaniard and Russian he was with. When Gerrans cracked, Cadel was left behind the first group.

Cancellara was pushing a massive pace on the second last hill and I remember Evans had at one stage a 5 second gap to bridge after he left Gerrans. Really what happened was nobody wanted Fabian to take home two WC jerseys. He was the strongest rider on the day. Unfortunately he was tag teamed too often and Cadel was waiting for a distraction and used it perfectly.

My last sentence was meant to be sarcastic. I forgot the

 

[auscyclefan94]

there was a vote. Evans did not get a vote from anyone.

In about March April 2009, Evans contacted Gerrans to ask him for support at Mendrisio, it was his home in Switzerland afterall. Gerrans asked for 30k for riding for Evans. Evans would not pay. Vote 8-1. Came out of the meeting and asked Sulzberger what the hell happened in there.

but he took away the rings, without paying team bonuses cos none bar Clarke did anywork for him, dont know if Clarke has a new Patek Philippe now, but assume not, think Evans holds his wallet close, and does not have the political deft touch.

Also no one would congratulate him in the team party. Only Clarke. Neil Stephens did not have one word to him over race radio when he was off the front in the last 10km.

Where did you get that from?

 

[blaxland]

there was a vote. Evans did not get a vote from anyone.

In about March April 2009, Evans contacted Gerrans to ask him for support at Mendrisio, it was his home in Switzerland afterall. Gerrans asked for 30k for riding for Evans. Evans would not pay. Vote 8-1. Came out of the meeting and asked Sulzberger what the hell happened in there.

but he took away the rings, without paying team bonuses cos none bar Clarke did anywork for him, dont know if Clarke has a new Patek Philippe now, but assume not, think Evans holds his wallet close, and does not have the political deft touch.

Also no one would congratulate him in the team party. Only Clarke. Neil Stephens did not have one word to him over race radio when he was off the front in the last 10km.

Please provide a link......never heard this story before..

 

[Galic Ho]

My last sentence was meant to be sarcastic. I forgot the

Cool. My fault. I forgot you like to play the humour card in your posts. I should have remembered that. Sorry for the drawn out needless explanation then.

 

[Galic Ho]

Where did you get that from?

Blackcat has sources whom the best reporters would murder a person to get in touch with. I've never heard that before but I had heard Stephens and Cadel don't get along well at all. I also heard quite a few in the team weren't as chummy towards Cadel as they'd like the public to know. The reason behind this is obvious...it doesn't look good for them from an advertising angle and thus they don't advertise it. A lot of people in the Aussie heirarchy don't love Cadel like you do.

As Blackcat said, Evans lacks that deft touch. Social nouse and grit. He's not the most obvious people person. Also Blackcat's explanation explains the motive for Gerrans denying their was a team conscious team vote (as others explained he didn't even do that properly). Money changes everything and asking for cash never looks good. Easy to understand why you'd try and crush rumours as they arise with that insight.

It's post like Blackcats and Issoisso's that have been missing on these forums the last few months. They're always gold chock full of value.

 

[Galic Ho]

From the time check he was 6 seconds back and that was when he had already reacted which means the gap was probably bigger. People fail to recognise how bigger of an effort evans had to make to bridge up to the Cancellara group

I didn't when I was watching. I knew it was hard and thought he might not make it. He deserved the win and bridging back proved it. Only a few riders in the world at the time could of done that. Barring Contador, the Schlecks and Menchov, all the others were in the front group he was trying to catch. That move hurt. But then again, most people miss the big painful stuff because they're not in the riders shoes. To them it is just guys pedalling at variable speeds.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Blackcat has sources whom the best reporters would murder a person to get in touch with. I've never heard that before but I had heard Stephens and Cadel don't get along well at all. I also heard quite a few in the team weren't as chummy towards Cadel as they'd like the public to know. The reason behind this is obvious...it doesn't look good for them from an advertising angle and thus they don't advertise it. A lot of people in the Aussie heirarchy don't love Cadel like you do.

As Blackcat said, Evans lacks that deft touch. Social nouse and grit. He's not the most obvious people person. Also Blackcat's explanation explains the motive for Gerrans denying their was a team conscious team vote (as others explained he didn't even do that properly). Money changes everything and asking for cash never looks good. Easy to understand why you'd try and crush rumours as they arise with that insight.

It's post like Blackcats and Issoisso's that have been missing on these forums the last few months. They're always gold chock full of value.

Yes, blackcat is very knowledgable. I remember with Cadel's transfer that i said he would never go to BMC and completely shut him down.

Even though he is a bit different, meeting him before and knowing others who have met him before says he is very generous, kind person. He alwas goes out to all the charity rides where you see no other pros except him there. He went to a charity ride which was 5 hours away in the pouring rain just to support a charity.I have many more stories on that type of stuff with cadel.